nooner

well if i ever perfect that fly i might make a post on how to tie it so you could throw it and catch a nice big bucket mouth haha

thanks a bunch. i will try this, what kind of tubing do you use that fits the backing?

I would say that i am starting to get the basic of tying down but i still do not think i am very good yet compared to my friends or flies you buy in the shop, so all the advice i can get would be greatly appreciated. I just made this fly up as i went and hopefully i can get to fish it tomorrow to see how it swims. let me know what you think and if it works good enough i will post more info on how i made the fly.