CoachBob 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2008 A new Louisiana urban pond, not stocked and plenty of these sunfish via natural avenues. Can't put a name to it. Any ideas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sniksoh 0 Report post Posted May 30, 2008 thats a green sunfish aka a rock bass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yeoldkiller 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 i thought that was just a panfish mixed with a bluegill and the rock bass i catch are dark green with red eyes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mswaterfowler 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 I caught one like that at my local pond and i think they are warmouths. Way off proportion! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shezli 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2008 Crazy, I haven't seen any of these before. Does look like a bluegill/sunfish cross! Doesn't look like a rock bass to me though. (although there are lots of names for fish and sometimes they cross over different species) S Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mswaterfowler 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 I looked it up on google and it is a warmouth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhinorods69 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 i want to say it a cross bread between a black eared sun fish and a war mouth michigan has a fish like this i wonder were they got there stock at check it out here and here http://www.wiscfish.org/fishid/wFrmFishDet...ae)&GID=161 http://www.wiscfish.org/fishid/frames.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachBob 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2008 After some consideration (and searching the web sites of every southern wildlife department), I think it probably IS a goggle eye (warmouth)-- only a juvenille. Mature goggle eye down here have much darker colors but do appear to have the same turquoise vein-like markings and green to yellow coloration. The water in which it grew is always a very light olive, thus possibly contributing to the overall lighter coloration of the fish. Thanks for your input. Coachbob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deeky 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2008 I would have to go with the warmouth. The giveaway is the proportionally large mouth for a sunfish. All others have a much smaller mouth. Could be some odd hybrid, but there's warmouth in there. It's also too elongated to be bluegill, green sunfish, or rockbass. THey are a much shorter body/taller profile. Deeky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2008 my money says it's a Green Sunfish (Lepomis cyanellus) not a Warmouth (Lepomis gulosus), and it doesn't appear to be a Rock Bass (Ambloplites rupestris)... I doubt very much if it is a hybrid or "cross" between any two species. Natural hybrids do happen, but less often than everyone wants them to. Green Sunfish also have a huge mouth compared to most other sunfish, and we catch many of them with a faded, washed out appearance especially in murky water. Greens also typically have an enlongated body compared to sunfish like bluegills and pumpkinseeds, but similar to warmouths and rockbass. Greens and Warmouths are very closely related- and can look very similar at times. Some folks call a Green Sunfish a Rock bass, and some call a Rock Bass a Goggle-eye, and some call a Goggle-eye a Warmouth.... You can call it anything you like, but in the end I believe it is Lepomis cyanellus. If you get a good fish ID book and check it out, you might be able to get a positive ID based on scale counts, spiny ray counts, and dentition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred H. 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2008 most definetly right .JSzymczyk nailed it. Its a green sunfish. And if the pond has them in abundance that is probably going to be the size they stay.Althought the other specie to be bread to bluegill to create the popular F1 hybrid; by itself the greensunfish will overpopulate and stunt in small ponds and lakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I'm thinkin' it's a Green too. It is absolutely not a Rock Bass. Rock Bass are more easily confused with misshapen Smallmouth than any other species. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St Croix Boy 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2008 Definately a Green we have a few here in PA but not a Rockbass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred H. 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2008 I caught my first rock bass last month while up in Arkansas. It has many common traits with a warmouth (goggle eye) but easily distinguished by coloration even in the juviniles. The fish pictured here has many common traits to the F1 hybids in my pond even the yellowish caudual fin . If this pond hasn't been stocked with hybrids than it is definitly a green sunfish. I was stumped earlier this spring. I caught a nine inch fish that appeared to be a cross of a bluegill and a crappie.Turned out to be a spiecies called a "flyer". Anyone ever catch these? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St Croix Boy 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2008 A 'FLYER' no cant say i have. i never heard of a Flyer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites