Po0gs 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Well, I just got my bucktail grab bag from Cabelas, and I got it with intentions to tie a bunch of clousers for LM bass fishing, kinda using em as a fly thats almost guarenteed to catch me bass, few questions, do LM really like clousers? How should the be presented, i.e. Weighted? or what not and what are good color patterns for LM and any variations that you should throw in with these for LM thanks all in advance. ~Po0gs~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Clousers are great for any type of Bass They have to be weighted with lead eyes on top of the shank to be considered a clouser. This will cause the hook to ride "point up" in the water so make sure you tie your colors according to this. For example the belly of the fly will be on top of the shank and the top of the fly is on the barb site. Chartruese over white, Grey over White are both good but my favorite is Olive with a thin black stripe over white. This is the perfect baby bass imitation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Po0gs 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 QUOTE (SmallieHunter @ Feb 21 2005, 08:43 PM) Clousers are great for any type of Bass They have to be weighted with lead eyes on top of the shank to be considered a clouser. This will cause the hook to ride "point up" in the water so make sure you tie your colors according to this. For example the belly of the fly will be on top of the shank and the top of the fly is on the barb site. Chartruese over white, Grey over White are both good but my favorite is Olive with a thin black stripe over white. This is the perfect baby bass imitation. yes, I more or less knew about the lead eyes and makign them point up and so on, I worded the weighting question wrong. Anyways. SO when i tie the white be on top on the shank so when its weighted upside down that will simulater the belly? thanks so much smallie! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 What different types of materials can be used for a clouser? I have boxes of materials around here so I'm sure I have something that would work. thanks Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Po0gs 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 QUOTE (jbrowning @ Feb 21 2005, 09:18 PM) What different types of materials can be used for a clouser? I have boxes of materials around here so I'm sure I have something that would work. thanks Jim Im a newb, but super hair, bucktail, flashabou, Krystal flash, a ton of materials liek that can be used. I think so at least, they work for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Jim any long natural or synthetic fiber can be used. I have been tying some with icelandic sheep and they look awesome. It breathes really well in the water and it is a thin translucent material QUOTE SO when i tie the white be on top on the shank so when its weighted upside down that will simulater the belly? Po0gs, You got the concept Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Po0gs 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 QUOTE (SmallieHunter @ Feb 21 2005, 09:34 PM) Jim any long natural or synthetic fiber can be used. I have been tying some with icelandic sheep and they look awesome. It breathes really well in the water and it is a thin translucent material QUOTE SO when i tie the white be on top on the shank so when its weighted upside down that will simulater the belly? Po0gs, You got the concept Ah nice, thanks man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Thanks for all the help guys. I have lots of synthetic hair around here. It sounds like I should try and use the lighter color for the belly though. Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Po0gs 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 One last thing Smallie. The weeds in my lake are pretty dense, the floor of the lake isnt nice sand, but muck. Im afraid that if the clouser runes deep that it would get lost in the weeds. Any suggestions or anything, thanks again m8. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 That's one problem with largemouth fishing. The problem is the bass will use these weeds for cover so you gotta get close to the weeds to draw them out. If you don't want it to go too deep you could use bead chain eyes, they won't sink the fly that much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Po0gs 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 QUOTE (SmallieHunter @ Feb 21 2005, 10:01 PM) That's one problem with largemouth fishing. The problem is the bass will use these weeds for cover so you gotta get close to the weeds to draw them out. If you don't want it to go too deep you could use bead chain eyes, they won't sink the fly that much. Ah I could apply my LM knowledge here, spinning combo fishing wise, though, weeds maybe arent what best describes whats on the bottom of that lake. Ill figure something out. One thing i do know is catching that 8Lber I caught on spinning combo,would be a heck of a fun time on a fly rod. One last thing, the most productive lure on my lake is a 4" Olive Venom Simlpe Straight worm. Any patterns out there to really mimick(sp?) the look of this. Im going to bed, Im beat, hope to read up on it tomorrow, Thanks a ton man. I cant find big enough bead chain eyes, and they wont sink fast will they? Bah I know nothing when it comes to fly-tying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted February 22, 2005 Use regular 'ol bead chain, the kind that you can find laying around the house. It will add just enough weight to get it down but it won't sink like a rock. You can also try adding a wire or mono weedguard that would help a little. If your dreging through moss there isn't much you can do. I have never seen a "Venom Simlpe Straight worm", got a picture? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StY|EsoX 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 I like to use mono weedguard, and I think that wire weedguard is to heavy for clousers flies. When the hook is up-said-down the leader is some kain of weedguard, but when fly sinking they are not weedles. I like to make epoxy head (over lead eye's or bead-chain )on my clouser and add big stick-on eyes. Big eyes are target for many predators like LM and Pike. Also fly is more durability, and look realistic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
big_fish 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 when I tie my clousers if I dont want it to sink fast I use bead chain in place of lead eyes as for color I have hade my best luck with a little krystal flash in the middle under you top color not to much or your streamer looks like it's going to a disco or something maybe at the most 4or5 strands good luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Po0gs 0 Report post Posted February 22, 2005 QUOTE (big_fish @ Feb 22 2005, 06:56 AM) when I tie my clousers if I dont want it to sink fast I use bead chain in place of lead eyes as for color I have hade my best luck with a little krystal flash in the middle under you top color not to much or your streamer looks like it's going to a disco or something maybe at the most 4or5 strands good luck I use 6-8 starnds of Rainbow Flashabou. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites