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These guys have wallaby and roo and there is some dubbing on ebay. http://www.flyworld.com.au/view/194/query/start/21/count/55 http://www.flyworld.com.au/view/20060814184944/ http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLY-TYING-KANGAROO-FUR-DUBBING-12-COLOURS-/120996289486?pt=AU_Sport_Fishing_Fly_Fishing&hash=item1c2bf0dbce

That would depend entirely on the species the feathers and hair came from. Here is a list of all birds and mammals covered by CITES, which will ultimately address what is allowed to be imported and what is not. Make sure that all samples that are allowed are clearly marked with species and place and date the sample was taken if possible. This will ensure the package is not held up or seized at customs. Polar bear and seal are out of the question. The following is a list of all CITES listed plants and animals originating in Sweden: http://www.cites.org/eng/resources/species.html Go to the page and select "Sweden" under search by country. It will provide a full list with Latin names.

Thank you Frank!

http://www.fws.gov/home/feature/2012/pdfs/AntiqueRoadshowFactsheetv3.pdf This was helpful, but does not address ownership.

Thank you for that, but that was not helpful at all. The Tawny is neither migratory, endangered nor an American breed. Add that to the fact that I neither wish to import nor export the feathers, then even the Cites treaty does not answer my question. I appreciate the time it took you to post this, but unless you know what laws specifically address non-threatened, vintage feathers of foreign origin, then it's all filler.

Because that is where my search took me. Better answer: There was tawny owl in the lot of feathers, so that would lead me understand that at least part of the lot originated in Europe. Because US law regarding non-native species is primarily governed by CITES and I couldn't find anything on the US based sites regarding pre-CITES status of non-US samples beyond non-official oppinions this is where my search took me. And it still hasn't answered my question about the legality of using vintage tawny owl.

Probably this or something close: White Barred Golden Braekel hen Should get some nice soft hackles and a few streamer feathers from this. Thanks everyone for your replies!

I looked at those first and this is what I always get or something very similar: hen pheasant wings The pheasant hen wing covert feathers have arched marking, not barred and the markings are grayish-brown, not reddish-brown. It doesn't look like the sample I have, except at first glance. Unless there are other variations of a ring-necked pheasant hen that are not in my books, on the government websites or on Google image search (all of which I looked through enthusiastically before coming here) then the wing looks closer to a campine than a pheasant. These feathers I have are barred reddish-brown on white. The golden campine is black on red or ginger, but at least the feathers are barred all the way up to the smallest coverts.

Thanks for that. The tawny owl is a European Owl, so I'm not really sure what the pre-CITEs laws are regarding them. Trying to read up on the laws is frustrating at best. All I get is a lot of opinions and the actual laws look like this: http://jncc.defra.gov.uk/PDF/waca1981_part1.pdf

Thanks Mikechell, but 1. I live on Rock Creek in the middle of the Rockies, so we really don't have a "local" zoo. Besides, I would think some of the members of this forum would be a good deal more knowledgeable about bird feathers than some local zookeeper. 2. It has got to be more a case of curiosity at this point, especially after going through all my North American bird books and spending hours on the internet searching rare bird databases. Someone will know what this is. I'm still leaning with domestic chicken, but it would be nice to know.

Thanks for the quick reply. Any idea what kind? I looked at he game and wildlife website and pdf http://www.lab.fws.gov/idnotes/_PheasantFeathers_final.pdf. they only show feather for the ringneck hen and these don't look much like them. The small covert feathers are barred just like the longer wing feathers. No church door or arched patterns. I've never worked with a partridge hen before, obviously, so perhaps you are right. Added detail: the wing is 8.75 inches long and about 4 inches wide the way it is .

I recently bought a large collection of circa 1960 fly tying materials and am having trouble identifying one wing. I would like to use the feathers, but want to make sure this is not from a protected species or if it is, what limitations might be relevant. There were also jungle cock and tawny owl feathers in the lot, so I'm not sure if this is something common or not. Any help with this would be appreciated. For all I know this could be from a common chicken.