vicrider

It is at the north pole (OK version) cencalfly.

jvmills, glad you're in and you'll be right at top of list this year.

I generally throw in a couple of 20s for the trip and like Mark this can go up if the person gives an all around good day. I don't necessarily base on fish caught since having been a guide up north and having run a charter boat I know it's not always rain fish on you but a person trying hard and staying positive and comfortable to be with makes a big part of how the trip goes. If it is a free lance guide he pays for gas, insurance, and on all day trips usually your meal and the fees for the trip usually barely keep food on his table. Maybe that's why so many of those guides are single guys.

So since my computer went south I don't have a printer or word on this tablet. Here's my story to go with the fly..

3 hours ago, jvmills said:

Please send me Venmo account and return amount to v.mills64gmail.com

JV, no Christmas swap this year? Lots of extra goodies this year. 

Nick

My jawbones are too old and fragile for implants. One of my S-I-Ls had it done and it didn't work. Had to come out and get plates. He had to get a lawyer to get part of his money back since it should have been established his jaw was not acceptable to total implant. Those costs are about triple the denture route and I wouldn't be around long enough to make it pay off.

Last week I got hit with a nasty toothache, the first I've had in years. I also pulled a muscle in my lower back that had me cobbled up and just couldn't get in and out of the car so I suffered with it from about Tuesday through the weekend. Ibuprofen helped both the tooth and the back but just mitigated the pain, didn't end it. So Monday got on the phone and started calling the dentists in Elk City, our closest real town. 5 listed offices and the first four weren't taking new patients. What the Heck? Finally the fifth one said they could fit me in tomorrow afternoon but could not guarantee the dentist would have time to do the pulling right then.

Okay, so I got in to the app't and first they have to get a full history. Got that taken care and back to the torture chair. Helper is at least good looking young gal and does an x-ray but can't get the easy one with me biting down and has to get in another gal to shoot the film while she forces the film down into my mouth and it hurts. Well Doc comes in, looks at my rotten mess of teeth and the x-ray (which by the way is digital and shows up immediately on a TV screen) and lets me know the tooth hurting me has also caused some infection on the one next to it and they both should come out. If you want this done today I'll have to numb you twice and come in and out a couple of times. Okay, do it.

So nurse goodbody stick this long swab with some goop on it to numb my mouth for the shots. It of course tastes something awful and that's too make the shots less painful? Well he comes, gives me three shots and one really hurts. He leaves and says he'll need to give me two more since these teeth are in a sensitive spot. Okay, time goes by and he shows up and gives me a couple more shots. He takes off and is gone for a short time, comes back and says lets do this. Well, the first tooth comes out with a little wiggling and cracking and not bad. Second must have stretched the nerve an inch before it broke off because it did hurt. Well, he did his packing, set me up with a couple of scrips for painkillers and antibiotics, gave me a few instructions and off he went. I went to the waiting room and patient wife was still there anyway. Got to the checkout and got my bill. Itemized...$637 dollars!!! Office visit 100, x-ray 37, two extractions at 250 per tooth. I can remember when a dentist would pull a tooth for 40 dollars but some young guy from dental college discovered the word extraction and costs have skyrocketed. I'm thinking it's time for dentures but found out they would be 2300 per plate plus the extraction of the 15 teeth I've got left at 250 a pop. Guess I'll have to be a gummer for awhile.

Bryon, mine have been complete and tagged for a week now but I've been a mess and will get them out tomorrow for sure. Between throwing my back out and stuck in my recliner for a few days, then a nasty toothache, then two teeth pulled for a $600 bill, it's been a bad couple of weeks for me. Actually, a bad couple of months for me. They will go out tomorrow and I'll do the write-up on the story behind them tomorrow too. I don't have a way to print it I don't think but I'll try or else PM it to you.

Nick

The bonus from generous elves are looking good this year. Woodenlegs is in with extras. He ties beautiful flies for sure.

I'm a little disappointed we do not have more people getting into this swap this year. This may well be my last year to be able to run this swap and all I can say is that the great generosity of flytire, nuskyflyguy, and Santa himself you are going to be missing a lot of great bonuses this year under the tree. This year you should join in especially if you've been in before.

I had to google what this post is about. Terrible news but similar to Poopdeck I have given up being a newshound. I used to watch a few hours of news everyday but at my age it has become too repititious and headline and sponsor dollar mongering and I just can't digest daily news anymore. The talking heads on most channels are there because of good speech and attractive looks and the ability to read a telepromptor smoothly. Days of Walter Cronkite and Tom Brokaw are gone.

In relation to this OP I am glad your family is all okay and what can stop a person doing what was done is an answer our country cannot seem to find. Any more of my thoughts on some of these things would surely bring the mighty hand of flytire down on me and he and Sasquatch are formidable defenders of the forum for us.

 Mayhem between OS and OSU used to be one of the big things in Oklahoma sports but with all the teams going to different conferences all around the country some old rivalries are being lost simply because the schools are being enticed to other conferences because of more income. It would be nice if that money was used to lower tuitions instead of using scholarships to buy the best players and pay millions to coaches with guaranteed golden parachutes in case they don't produce. 

Anyhow here's the Cowboys and Sooners smashing helmets for one last time.

Thank you and glad you're back and back to the tying and fishing game.

Back years ago when I lived in Chicago suburbs we bought a lot of our auto supplies and custom crap from either Warshawsky's or JC Whitney's. Instead of ordering one time I went to pick stuff up. Turns out is a very big warehouse that was on the corner of two roads in Chicago. One long building was Warshawsky and down the other street with it's owe entrance was JC Whitney. Their parts were all in the same bins with diifferent #s for each company. The funny thing was their prices often vary by quite a bit and it was funny to hear guys argue about the quality of the parts when they all came out of the same bins.

Overseas? Fishing or defending our country or working? You're in.

I'm game unless I tell you different in near future. Things are going good now but not so good recently. I will do a "Our Lady of the Guadalupe" bugger variant.

If you make the mistake of really getting into bamboo like I did a few years back you might interested in checkiing in to the bamboo forum. Unbelievable amount of knowledge on there and tapers are usually something determined in the building process. I see you bought the blank and went from doing a great job. Getting too deep into bamboo means getting too deep into the pocketbook but they are about the only rods I've fished the last few years I was able to get to trout waters. Sold all but a few but I have a couple of Penta rods (5 sided) I will try to hold onto as long as I still have hopes of fishing them.

http://classicflyrodforum.com/forum

On 9/1/2023 at 9:31 AM, flytire said:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CwNX-1QsohR/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Having spent some time riding in my nephews hovercraft on Lake Superior and inland it is strange to make the sliding turns they do.  Another thing that was scary was coming from the water up the ramp to the trailer. Having spent my whole life in boats that had a big part of them underwater and flying into that ramp at 30mph or so you just waited for the big grind and crunch but they just slide up smooth as can be.

cencalfly, if you're up to it the Christmas swap is listed on the Swap page. I know about health problems and working through them. It seems like since the start of the Covid business it has been downhill for me and I even had Covid and that was the least of the problems I've been tangling with. Things are looking up lately (knock on wood) and hope I might even be able to take advantage of the winter trout stocking programs in OK and TX.

And you are psycho.

My gosh gadabout, you are an oldtimer. I grew up on the Shakespeare Wonderods and still have several in the shed. I also have several Medalists laying around and they work as well as my Hardy Cascapedias. The big difference is the Medalists would sell for around $50 and the Cascapedia for $450. I have the Hardy's on the two Bamboo rods I still have left I fish with and they are such a great match I just had to have the right reel on the rod. 

Unlike a lot of you when I grew up with Wonderods in the 50s and 60s my Dad and those we fished with all used automatic reels. I still have Garcia, Perrine, and Shakespeare auto reels and they are all that ever was needed for the bass and panfish we fished for back then. As a matter of fact this inspires me to drag out my heavyweight Wonderod and Garcia auto reel with the 9 weight Bass Bug taper line and see if I'm strong enough to case a big bass popper anymore.

For some reasons things have been slow filling lately. You said you had me but don't see me on the list. If my hands are steady I have an unusual fly for the swap that will be a killer on the water.

Nick

You're counted. You got the number 4 spot no one else wanted but it's the lucky spot.

You're in MZilliox. Never room out of room in this swap. I moved Stabgnid to 15 since it's his lucky number.

Nick

Got that Norm. That's why you and Musky Fly Guy are Santa's Gift. You're sending a gift with nothing in return. Makes it a True Gift for you guys. I'm actually doing the same since I probably won't keep a box for myself either. If you check CFRF you'll see I tried to sell some bass fly boxes at give away prices and still have most of them. I'm going to list a bunch of fly boxes with flies for little more than cost of box and mailing since my water time is never going to be what I'd like. I do plan to get out when OK and TX start the winter trout stocking program in the ponds but none of them are very close to me so that too will be limited at best. 

You bet you can, thank you.