Nicolas Goles 0 Report post Posted June 6, 2007 hi guys, I created this streamer to catch a fish called "Pejerrey" here in South America. The thing about this fish is that it bites the fly from behind , so long tail streamers, zonkers, etc, don't work well. The streamers must be very flashy in order to catch the fish attention. Do you have any ideas to improve it ? THanks! PS: I am just starting to tie ... so It's not very nice, I know Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ron P. 0 Report post Posted June 8, 2007 The body and tail of this pattern look excellent; my only suggestion would be to tie up a few with a thicker, yet finer, wing, one that will work within the microcurrents of the river or stream. Test both, and whichever one works best will be the one to add to your permanent collection of core patterns. htpp://www.ronpswegman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Z 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2007 nice fly, personally i would make a tiny bit thinner of a body, and add a little tiny bit of marabou on the top, over the peacock, to match the local baitfish. JZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolas Goles 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2007 I did a couple of variations/updates to this pattern that I will post tonight. One is a #4 with cone style eyes to give the fly a lot of depth. Since I will fish this streamer on a lake, like 6 or even 8 meters down recovering from there. (not from shore, from a boat ), I need the thing to sink fast. The other variations have a thinner body, I will have to think about adding a bit of marabou over the peacock in the back, it's a good idea . Is it too hard to cast something like that with a #5 rod and a SA streamer express line ?? fast action rod. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J.Z 0 Report post Posted June 10, 2007 i have bassed fished with a weighted bunny leach with a bamboo 3 weight :hyst: and i don't thnk i will ever do that again. but that will be perfectly fine with a 5 weight i think. JZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 14, 2007 Do you have any ideas to improve it ? THanks! PS: I am just starting to tie ... so It's not very nice, I know I think you have a good idea with this fly, now you need to refine it. Here is my two cents, for whatever it's worth: 1. Lighten up on the the maribou in the tail you have too much, a little maribou goes a long way. 2. A couple of strands of Crystal Flash in the tail would be a good addition. 3. A layer of silver tinsel under you pearlescent body material would brighten it up. 4. A hackle collar would balance the underside of the fly and provide extra movement int the water. 5. Dump the Peacock Herl wing and use Peacock Sword, it would look much nicer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zip 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2007 Make the head a wee bit smaller. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hard 0 Report post Posted June 15, 2007 I would tie the tail and wing just the back of the hook so a strike is all hook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nicolas Goles 0 Report post Posted June 16, 2007 Hi guys! holy, I haven't been around lately so I didn't read all this suggestions until now! Well i have been working on the streamer, the thing is that it needed a lot more weight for the places I will be fishing. ( the fish are located like 3 meters to 6 or sometimes more meters deep ). So I did a similar streamer, with more weight in the eyes, in a number 4 hook. I think it could work. I will try to make more and follow your suggestions because they are great . Anyways , here's what I have been tying lately: The previous streamer but weighted eyes in #4 hook: The same idea of the previous streamer but chain eyes in #6 hook with some flashabou: A pheasant tail, not for this trip... lol Some midges in #14 hooks, not for this trip.... Well I have been tying for a month or so, so please don't be harsh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zip 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2007 Nice lookin flies.Your second fly-I think the blue flash could be shortened a bit.When you strip it,the flash could get caught in the bend of the hook and your fly wont fish correctly. Midges and nymphs look great.Keep em coming! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zip 0 Report post Posted June 17, 2007 Oh by-the-way,no one is going to harsh(like beat ya with a wooden stick harsh).Everyone was a begginer once and you only learn from practice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted June 23, 2007 I would suggest using the natural end of the marabou feather for the tail... from the pics it appears as if the tail has been cut to length, giving it a "paintbrush" look. The natural ends will give a nicer shape and action. That's just my two-cents, and if the flies are working, no changes are needed! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites