Christopher K 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2014 I've been playing around with Geezus lizards and texas ringworms lately and am really liking this technique, I was just wondering if there are any other popular patterns that use them? Or has anyone on here designed patterns themselves that use the method? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2014 I made one where right in the middle of the loop I threaded it through a foam ball, then dubbed the rest, when furled over the foam is at the end, and you use lots of lead, or dumbbell eyes on the body yo make a bass worm that head stands like a shaky head worm and wiggles with the slightest current or twitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2014 I'd like to see photos of both the technique, and your shaky worm, Fisher. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimo 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2014 Take a look at this pattern from Shane Stalcup.Also Ken Hanley's book "Tying Furled Flies".Kimo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christopher K 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2014 I'd like to see photos of both the technique, and your shaky worm, Fisher. This is what I mean by that Mike. Thanks for the ideas guys, I'll try them out! Â Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2014 I'd like to see photos of both the technique, and your shaky worm, Fisher. Will put together a SBS tonight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 25, 2014   I'd like to see photos of both the technique, and your shaky worm, Fisher.  This is what I mean by that Mike. Thanks for the ideas guys, I'll try them out! Interesting fly, but it seems like a lot of wasted time and material that is going to be lost on some submerged tree limb or rock. Compare this to a Clouser minnow, arguably the most successful fly design ever devised. A hook, dumbbell eyes, bucktails, a little flash and two minutes of tying time. Maybe I'm getting lazy in my old age, but this seems like far too much effort, time and money when there are simpler ways to catch a fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 Here mike you just put the dumbbell eyes on, the go to back of the fly and make a dubbing loop 3x longer than you want the tail go be. Dub the top half of the loop then thread the foam on it using a needle or bobbin threader. I usually use rounded out pool noodle foam but I had to improvise as I'm out of town. Then dub the bottom half. Twist up and up and up... Then let it furl over with the foam right at the end. Tie it down and dub the body. Whip finish and you're done! It's only 3 inches long but I've tied up to 10inches. Use whatever colors you like, I just used what I had at hand. Lemme know if you tie it and catch a fish on it. Â Â Â Â Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 That's pretty cool. Thank you for the demo. I will probably tie up one or more of those this week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 Thanks, that's my first SBS, I'm sorry it's a little sloppy, it was my 5th try and I was getting aggravated, I would get halfway done, then everything would go away and I has to start over 4 times! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 7.5 inch worm with the color combo of watermelon seed or red shad works great in lake george, so it might with on the St. John's River too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Christopher K 0 Report post Posted June 26, 2014 Here mike you just put the dumbbell eyes on, the go to back of the fly and make a dubbing loop 3x longer than you want the tail go be. Dub the top half of the loop then thread the foam on it using a needle or bobbin threader. I usually use rounded out pool noodle foam but I had to improvise as I'm out of town. Then dub the bottom half. Twist up and up and up... Then let it furl over with the foam right at the end. Tie it down and dub the body. Whip finish and you're done! It's only 3 inches long but I've tied up to 10inches. Use whatever colors you like, I just used what I had at hand. Lemme know if you tie it and catch a fish on it. Â Â Â Â Looks good, but needs about 5x that amount of dubbing! Thanks for the SBS. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
artimus001 0 Report post Posted June 29, 2014 a great idea for sure. it just doesn't pass the kool-aid test for me. cool looking fly, great action, but a mess to cast and fish. i keep having a problem with the tail getting wrapped around the hook. Â i'll second clouser minnows as a choice over this style. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stilljerkin 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2014 I did this and twisted everything like it said an all my dubbing just bunched up in big knot when I let go in the end and came untwisted I'm not sure what I did wrong I pulled all the dubbing out and put it back an said heck with that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2014 Stilljerkin ... just take a piece of rope or thick thread, about 6 inches long. Twist it a little, then move the two ends together. Almost every time, right in the middle, it will curl around itself and create a "furled" loop. If you twist it too much, it will double up on itself and lose the single spiral. If you don't twist it enough, it will stop spiraling before you get the two ends together. Done right, it will be spiraled together, and the twist in the line will keep it that way. But most times, you can't just "let go" of the ends, because it will untwist. You need to secure the loose ends with tape or glue ... or just trap it under a weight, until you are ready to tie it on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites