barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2015 Hook: Daiichi 1168 size 18 Hackle: Metz #2 Cree Cape Body: peacock herl Thorax: Harrop Blue Wing Olive Wing: blue dun poly yarn Thread: Black Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wschmitt3 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2015 Nice Barry, parachutes that small are so tough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2015 Nice Barry, parachute that small are so tough. Not so tough, if you have a look for Dave McPhail on YouTube you'll find some excellent tips I tying smaller flies. My style is very similar. One tip I did pick up from him is the use of Superglue rom a bottle with a brush. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crackaig 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2015 Nice, that style is now the only kind of parachute I use (tie plenty or others) after I came to the conclusion that parachutes don't make good dun imitations. I had to read the pattern a couple of times, as I stupidly looked at the photo first. (You have the body / thorax materials the wrong way around). Cheers, C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicrider 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2015 I like to tie the small parachutes also and I use the last tie off under the parachute hackle by throwing a whip finish in there and touching the thread with a bit of CA with the brush. After using several ones over the last few years I'm now sold on the Krazy Glue with the brush and have a brush I've trimmed way down and works great for dabbing a touch of glue on the thread just before you pull the Maratelli whip finish tight, either on parachutes or head of regular fly. How do you get the bronze herl? Do you buy it colored or leave it in the window for a week in the sun rotating like I've also heard works? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wschmitt3 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2015 It was a compliment, not a solicitation of advise but I agree Davie McPhail's videos have many good pointers. Crackaig, are you saying that the poly yarn is the only type of parachute post you use or you only use klink style parachutes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2015 I like to tie the small parachutes also and I use the last tie off under the parachute hackle by throwing a whip finish in there and touching the thread with a bit of CA with the brush. After using several ones over the last few years I'm now sold on the Krazy Glue with the brush and have a brush I've trimmed way down and works great for dabbing a touch of glue on the thread just before you pull the Maratelli whip finish tight, either on parachutes or head of regular fly. How do you get the bronze herl? Do you buy it colored or leave it in the window for a week in the sun rotating like I've also heard works? It's just normal peacock, I think the photo makes it look bronze. I also use Krazy Glue under the Peacock Herl to make the fly a bit more robust. Crackaig, it's my version of a Rusty Spinner BWO. Yours might be different Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wschmitt3 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2015 Craikaig is saying in your material list you switched the material you listed for the body and thorax. The thorax is the peacock herl and the "body" or abdomen is the Harrop BWO dubbing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2015 Craikaig is saying in your material list you switched the material you listed for the body and thorax. The thorax is the peacock herl and the "body" or abdomen is the Harrop BWO dubbing. Ok, my mistake, I'll never do it again!. I don't fish many dries here in Redding, but I'm planning to this year. Upper Sacramento River fishing dries only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wschmitt3 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2015 You better not! I am kinda thinking the same thing. I fished mostly nymphs and buggers last year, I would like to fish dries more this year. Upper Sacramento, dry fly only? Is it an anadromous spawning area? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2015 You better not! I am kinda thinking the same thing. I fished mostly nymphs and buggers last year, I would like to fish dries more this year. Upper Sacramento, dry fly only? Is it an anadromous spawning area? No it's mostly fly only, dry's or wets. No salmon spawning on the Upper. But I fish nymphs pretty well all the time on the Lower Sac. This fly is just a experiment! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crackaig 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2015 What I meant was that I only use parachutes that hang below the surface, like a Klinkhamer, or other emerger. I don't use them for dun imitations, ie with a straight body, as I find they ride to low in the surface. Yes I do use mostly poly yarn for the post, and finish as you do, except I put my dubbing needle in the loop of the whip finish and put the head cement (whatever you use) on the needle or, in your case, the tip of your whip finisher. If you put a little tension on the thread as you pull it out, you hit the whip finish perfectly every time. You can use less cement this way and have less chance of gumming up bits you don't want to. Yes it was that you got the body and thorax materials switched around. No biggie, but I was confused for a minute (easy to do these days, mind you it was never really all that difficult to get me confused). Cheers, C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueEyedSon 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2015 Thanks for posting this pattern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicrider 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2015 Yeah, guess I blew that too. For some reason I looked at the body and thought it had to be bronzed herl. I know some guys do this with herl by sun bleaching it. If I'd opened my eyes all the way I'd have seen the herl was at the thorax and not the body. Good catch on that Crack, bad call by me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2015 Crack, I frequently use superglue or varnish on the thread to whip finish as you do. I find the superglue very useful at other stages as well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites