Big Fly Bob 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2016 The problem I always had with lips on diving bugs is when lifting for the next cast, the bug just wants to dive deeper. The diver I finally came up with is looks like a crippled minnow laying on it's side. It dives with very little pull but will turn over with too much, making it shoot out of the water for easier back casts. They are very easy to make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted March 6, 2016 Just used craft foam for the body? Looks pretty simple I might try a couple of those. I haven't had any trouble with mine diving to hard when I'm trying to pull out for another cast, they only run 1 ft or so down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Fly Bob 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2016 I use the craft foam with glitter on it, 2 layers. I make the whole thing, then put the hook in it. The hook has the 2 barbs to hold plastic worms better and I wrap thread there and add glue before I put the hook in. They will only last for a few fish but are real easy to make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Fly Bob 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2016 This is one of the many I have experimented with. It dives deeper the more you pull it so is very hard to pick up to cast. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2016 Yea your bill comes off a more slanted angle than mine do, also thinner body I'm guessing making them dive a little stronger. I'm fishing mine with a fast 8 weight to I could see it being more of an issue with a softer rod. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted March 7, 2016 If you would like to try one I'd be happy to mail it out I have one without paint made up just need to make sure it swims ok before I mail it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fly Fishing Russia 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2016 I am using "wobbler-flies" with a plastic lip for 20 years. I fish with them a lot, especially when the water is not clear. Very efficient flies. A small fly could attract a big predator. My record - 50+ pound fish with a #4 fly a little over 2" long (see the pic attached). More details on different types of the wobbler-flies see here: http://flyfishingrussia.com/posts/408dea70-wobbler-flies-1 http://flyfishingrussia.com/posts/d5788f6b-antiwobbler-1 http://flyfishingrussia.com/posts/5732108b-belly-up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicente 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2016 I'll going to try making some of those FFR, probably use a soda bottle or something for the lip since I don't have any syringes handy. I could see them working really well on brown trout out here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites