VERN-O 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 I usually don't tie these types of flies....so any comments/feedback are appreciated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fred H. 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 don't know anything about salmon,but I'm a sucker for anything tied on those elegent shaped blackened hooks. Beautiful flies ,nicley tied. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speyman1 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 These are awesome, I really like your soft hackle/spider style with the ice dub bodys, Very fishy. Cheers, Speyman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigdewy 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 Those look like killers to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frank G. Swarner III 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 They look great Vern-o.....I don't see anything out of place or where it shouldn't be....nice proportions..they should get you into a salmon or two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalWulff 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 Hey Vern-o,  I like them a lot, but I will give some advice on the flies so you can be mroe aware of what you are doing.  - great body taper, that looks really sharp! I dont usually do this but you make it look really good.  - as for the head, I prefer a much smaller head and usually only do a couple turn whip finish to hold it down then give it a few coats of head cement or laquer.  - Depending on the style you want, the collar should be a smaller. If you are going for that soft hackle look, which your flies do very well, then you have it down. If you are wanting a collar then they hackle should be smaller. I prefer a smaller collar that is fairly thick, which will show off the body.  - On materials where the ribbing will dig in, I like to use a wide oval tinsel or a flat tinsel. Mostly I tie my bodies very tight and use a fine oval tinsel for the ribbing.  You've got it good there, just some personal preferences that I like to add in.  anyways beauty flies  Looking good man! Post some more!  Phil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VERN-O 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 thanks for the comments all around....yeah I'm a sucker for soft hackle style....plus the guinea fowl hackles I have are mostly on the long side....greatly appreciated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhinorods69 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 thanks for the comments all around....yeah I'm a sucker for soft hackle style....plus the guinea fowl hackles I have are mostly on the long side....greatly appreciated    one those are awesome  two have you ever tried pheasant rump feathers from a ring neck pheasant and used it as hackle like soft hackle or guinea fowl. gives that natural brownish look i love with a little shimmer from the feathers natural iridescent huge. any ways thought i would see if other use this feather any ways good luck and awesome flies......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalWulff 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 Rhino, Â Thats a good tip, I like wrapping it as a collar and pulling down as a throat! Good call man! Â Although my supply of pheasant rump feathers is long gone, long gone. Â phil Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bobfly 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 Can`t add much, Nice looking flies!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
letumgo 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 Verno - I will be swinging some of these flies this fall for sure!!! :headbang: These look great. :yahoo: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhinorods69 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 Rhino,  Thats a good tip, I like wrapping it as a collar and pulling down as a throat! Good call man!  Although my supply of pheasant rump feathers is long gone, long gone.  phil   make a great spey hackle to and it come in tons of colors i like the skins best not only do you get the rump but other feathers as well for other fun stuff any ways here is a link to sum   http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/item/N...asant-Skin.html    Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
picketpin 0 Report post Posted May 15, 2008 Very Nice looking fly those are hot patterns in my neck of the woods Tight Lines Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Hat 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Hi Vern-O. Great ties. If you want to try to shorten the hackle with the guinea you can tie in the hackle (before your body materials) back from the hook eye the desired length to shorten. Then sweep them forward over the eye and wrap it with thread just up behind the eye. Tie your body as normal, then push your hackle out a bit when you tie your head. Not as natural looking as normal, but works when you only have long hackled feathers to work with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VERN-O 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 old hat that sounds very interesting...so wrap the hackle and push the fibers over the hook eye and wrap down with thread where I would whip finish in the end.....tie the rest of the fly....fold fibers back over (now toward the bend of the hook)....build a neat head and whip finish??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites