bob2935 0 Report post Posted December 19, 2010 Was wondering if fellow tiers could compare the Renzeti Master vise the Dyna King Barracuda. Presently own the Master and really do not like it in part because I mainly tie small dries and nymphs commercially and it always feels cramped when I am working from the back of the hook. Does the standard Barracuda seem to be less confined when working on the back section of the hook. Is buying the Barracuda self-defeating because it has the same problem. Any other opinions on either vise would be appreciated. Thanks Bohemian Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day5 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2010 It does have more room. But I think Rens jaws are better quality. Dyna's new steel is softer thus the reason for the change in there warranty. They only offer a 2 year warranty on them now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoubleHaul 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2010 I think Day5 is spot on in his assessment of the soft jaws on the DK. One my new Barracuda, if the hook doesn't fit in the jaw grooves, it doesn't stay. My early '90's Professional holds tight. I'd give up "true" rotary for tying trout flies, and maybe look at a Regal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyfishing99 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2010 I think Day5 is spot on in his assessment of the soft jaws on the DK. One my new Barracuda, if the hook doesn't fit in the jaw grooves, it doesn't stay. My early '90's Professional holds tight. I'd give up "true" rotary for tying trout flies, and maybe look at a Regal. Do yourself a favor and get a jvice. Look at jvice.com. Get the pro jaws. Room galore Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnP 0 Report post Posted December 20, 2010 I think Day5 is spot on in his assessment of the soft jaws on the DK. One my new Barracuda, if the hook doesn't fit in the jaw grooves, it doesn't stay. My early '90's Professional holds tight. I'd give up "true" rotary for tying trout flies, and maybe look at a Regal. I would second the motion for a Regal. I love my Medallion - rock-solid hook hold and no muss and fuss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted December 20, 2010 Was wondering if fellow tiers could compare the Renzeti Master vise the Dyna King Barracuda. Presently own the Master and really do not like it in part because I mainly tie small dries and nymphs commercially and it always feels cramped when I am working from the back of the hook. Does the standard Barracuda seem to be less confined when working on the back section of the hook. Is buying the Barracuda self-defeating because it has the same problem. Any other opinions on either vise would be appreciated. Thanks Bohemian Bob I thinks the best vise for small flies is the HMH with the micro jaws. They are the best small jaws on the market. Plenty of room. I have the HMH and the Barracuda and generally use the Barracuda for the larger stuff and the HMH with the micro jaws for the little stuff. In fact, when I ordered the HMH from Day5 I got it with only the micro jaws. Check out the pictures of the micro jaws on their web site. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ciccio 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2010 I also tie flies professionally and I own a couple of Vises (I collect them) including the Master Vise and the Barracuda. To be able to use the master I add to alter the jaws with the help of a Dremel tool: Now I can tie XL flies (very seldom) and extra small #24 and upside down Both vises are too cumbersome for my character (particularly the Barracuda) Now I use a Lawrennce vise! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day5 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2010 HMH jaws http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwZSA_7ifm0\ Hmh Rotation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishHawk 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2010 I use a Barracuda Jr and have had no problems with the jaws. The steel on my jaws are not soft. FishHawk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day5 0 Report post Posted December 21, 2010 I use a Barracuda Jr and have had no problems with the jaws. The steel on my jaws are not soft. FishHawk How old is it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob2935 0 Report post Posted December 22, 2010 Thanks Guys for all the great ideas. The traditional vise position works best for me. I already own a HMH, which I love but the cam system seems to need occasional readjustment, which you would never care about unless you tied commercially. I do have the Regal which is a great vise for pro tying and that gets it’s share of use but for some reason I like my Dyna King Pro and Supreme. I was going though a set of jaws or two a year with them until I figured out how to make the jaws’ hold better. It’s kind of pathetic that this dawned on me after tying thousands of flies. What I used to do regarding locking down the hooks was to set the collar in a fashion that the vise would click onto the hook. I assumed that was the best way to use the vise. Now I adjust the collar so that the jaws click onto the hook and I still have more play to draw the handle down more. After the click I now adjusted the vise so I more the handle at least an inch further which really secures the hook. It’s amazing the results I have had. There is no more hook slippage at all. For the first time in years I find my Dyna King Pro and Supreme really do hold the hook well. Have at least eight midge and standard jaws that I considered worn down that now hold the hook like a new set of jaws. Hope what I’m saying makes sense. Wondering if you have to do the same thing with the Dyan King Barracuda jaws as a way to get a more secure fit. Hardly ever use the notches in the jaws because I tend to make smaller patterns. Thanks again for all the great ideas. BohemianBob at [email protected] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites