Dezod 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 Hey there I have been wanting to try my hand at spinning deer hair for a while. My question has to do with hooks. I have the TMC 8089 in #6 and #10. They are a bit pricey at my local fly shop, and I see that J. Stockard has their hooks on for 20% off right now. They have 2 mustad models available, one old calssic that they are no longer carrying once they sell and one signature. The shapes are different and I am trying to find out how they compare in shank length to the 8089's and get some opinions on their shape as I think the classic ones look cooler, but I don't know if they catch fish any better. The two models are Signature C52S BLN and Classic 37187. The signatures are $3.50-$4.00 per 25. The classics are $8.50-$10.00 per 100, but they are out of the 2/0, so is the classic #2 the same as the TMC 8089 #2. I really only want 3-4 sizes of stinger hooks for spun deer hair bugs so I am looking to round out my grouping on the larger size. Opinions would be appreciated as I don't really have anything upon which to base my own. Thanks C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
onceahoosier 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 Dezrod I am not familiar with the Mustad Signature, but I have both Mustad 37187 (in 1/0, 2, and 6) and TMC 8089 in #2 only. The Mustad 37187 #2 is similar in size to the TMC 8089 #2. I think the TMC is a sturdier hook, and has a wider gap which aids in hooking and eases hair trimming underneath the hook. If you can afford it that's what I'd recommend. However, the Mustad is a lot cheaper and it should work OK. If you can find the Mustad 3366, its also cheap and is very sturdy. The 3366 in size 2/0 is only slighly smaller than the TMC 8089 and is a pretty good low cost substitute in my opinion. You can find it at Bass Pro Shops (check their web site if you don't have a store near you). Good luck. Tom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dezod 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 Thanks tom that is just the information I was looking for. C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 the Mustad Signature C52S BLN is an OUTSTANDING deer hair bug hook. They are also more true-to-size than the 8089s, which have a weird arbitrary size number, HUGE for the size compared to most other hooks. Mustad used to make a hook almost identical to the 8089s, which were great, and I have quite a few left from many years ago. I have bought several packs of the C52BLN hooks from JStockard, and I have absolutely no complaints about them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dezod 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 I read online that the hook gap on the mustad signatures was quite small for deer hair work, but I don't know how to take that. Also by "truer to size" could you be a little more specific as anything larger than a #10 is gigantic for me and I have no frame of reference. I am looking for a stinger hook about the same size as the #2 TMC 8089, so in the signature line would that be closer to a 2/0? thanks C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
navigator37 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2010 I agree about the Mustad Signature C52S BLN hooks. They're wicked. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2010 I read online that the hook gap on the mustad signatures was quite small for deer hair work, but I don't know how to take that. Also by "truer to size" could you be a little more specific as anything larger than a #10 is gigantic for me and I have no frame of reference. I am looking for a stinger hook about the same size as the #2 TMC 8089, so in the signature line would that be closer to a 2/0? thanks C sorry, late replying, but yes you are correct. The 8089 #2 would be roughly the size of a 2/0 C52. Not exactly, but pretty close. As for the hook gap, if the fly is built and trimmed correctly, there is no issue. No matter what hook is used, if a lot of hair and other junk is left under the shank, it will interfere with the gap. Plus, that black nickel finish is just so cool~! Onceahoosier mentioned the 3366, and I also agree totally. They are great hooks, very versatile, and not expensive. I use a LOT of 3366s.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyfish Dog 0 Report post Posted February 1, 2010 M3366 are great hooks for the money, go to Captain hook dicount warehouse for the best prices on them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites