eastern fly 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2011 Has anyone had this problem? I use me Dremel to form foam bodies. I have a finish nail with the head cut off. I super glue the foam to the nail. Then my foam flies off. This is a first for me. It happened 3 times with 3 different pieces. What seams to be the problem? Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJ All Day 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2011 Do you sand them? If so do you work towards the dremel? because if you dont you might be pressing it towards so it flies off. I suggest using a small screw, but i know Kirk uses a needle that is like a triangle point that holds the cork, foam, or balsa well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eastern fly 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2011 I made a sanding pad. I glued some sand paper to a peice of 3/4 stock. The problem is as soon as hit the switch its gone. I have made these before but for some reason there comming off now. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJ All Day 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2011 Do you have a new dremel? what about the rpm's of your dremel? It might be way to fast for it to stay on the nail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jolly Red 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2011 I have made some of these, using a large sewing needle in the dremel (round, not three sided, although I got some of those for the next time I try this). I push the foam onto the spinning needle till it spins on its own. Then sand it, and it hasn'nt needed superglue to hold it on. Could you be pushing too hard on the sandpaper and dragging the body off? I agree with NJ that you don't want to push away from the dremel. Push straight in or towards the dremel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2011 Kev try some different foam I had the same problem a few weeks back I went to a differnet foam and it stopped must have been the denseness of the foam wouldn't hold on the needle I use Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eastern fly 0 Report post Posted June 21, 2011 I will try a different foam. I got a good deal on this and could make a ton of flies. Its comming off before it gets sanded. Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoachBob 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2011 I have been saying for years everyone does it bass-ackwards. Look at http://www.flytyingforum.com/pattern6910.html Using this method I have done literally thousands of flies, including poppers, sliders, pencil poppers, and have smoothed bodies for ants and hoppers and such. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oatka 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2011 I have a finish nail with the head cut off. Wouldn't the simple solution be to not cut the head off the nail? You are taking the nail out when you are done...right? I can't figure out why you need the head cut off, and it just seems to be causing the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eastern fly 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2011 I have done it before but I see now there is a better way. Do you still glue the foam on the nail or just slid it on? Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirk Dietrich 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2011 I will try a different foam. I got a good deal on this and could make a ton of flies. Its comming off before it gets sanded. Kevin Sounds like to many RPMs like NJ suggested. I have a dremel that has six speeds and I usually find the second or third slowest is the best speed and a light touch and patience when sanding is key as well as pushing like stated earlier. I've never used super glue to hold a plug on either and I've turned down cylinders of different materials from cork to balssa to tupelo to foam. Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigfoot 0 Report post Posted July 13, 2011 Kirk what material is tupelo? Any help would be great. Thanks BF Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites