mikechell 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 Sorry ... I didn't mean to offend. In my world, "bleeding heart" doesn't mean "Liberal". I wasn't being political. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
williamhj 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 all this from one apostrophe! What I find incredibly interesting is how one misused tiny little apostrophe resulted in heated discussion about good versus evil. Words matter. A good reason to leave peoples' grammar and punctuation alone on forums. Yes some people have rough grammar and punctuation. Yet discussions of Cree hackle color are likely not the best places for to engage in pedagogy on the subject. Talk about off topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Gallop 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 I was able to edit my response and apologize. I did learn a new word in all of this though. "Pedagogy". I'm somewhat educated, even taught graduate level university classes after retirement, but never heard that term before. And it is what I was doing. Cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
williamhj 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 Of note, the ancient Greek roots of the word pedagogy mean 'leading a child'. Might be better if we treated one another as adults and didn't try to correct grammar, punctuation, or politics. These subjects almost always create far more heat than light on forums. Can we get back to Cree hackle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 Of note, the ancient Greek roots of the word pedagogy mean 'leading a child'. Might be better if we treated one another as adults and didn't try to correct grammar, punctuation, or politics. These subjects almost always create far more heat than light on forums. Can we get back to Cree hackle? Please, let's get this back on topic or please mods delete the thread altogether Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvendon 0 Report post Posted October 11, 2014 Back to the topic, Here are some that I have. First one's a Metz #2, second a Whiting #1 when the top of the card was still labeled Hoffmans and you could find them in just about any fly tying shop before forums like this changed that, and a #2 Metz saddle. The gloss is really good on that one so some of the feathers look strange. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
williamhj 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2014 Thanks for posting the pictures. I've thought about purchasing some. Necessary, no, but seem fun to play around with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
barrytheguide 0 Report post Posted October 12, 2014 Back to the topic, Here are some that I have. First one's a Metz #2, second a Whiting #1 when the top of the card was still labeled Hoffmans and you could find them in just about any fly tying shop before forums like this changed that, and a #2 Metz saddle. The gloss is really good on that one so some of the feathers look strange. Looking at your two, they look identical to my Metz #2 and my Whiting Cree ( this cape arrived in a unmarked plastic bag from Feather Emporium) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Gallop 0 Report post Posted October 13, 2014 Not sure how they are grading them but the third, Metz #2 saddle seems to have the best contrast. Most all my fly tying materials are unnecessary but is nice to have. Tying is only a part of what I enjoy. Next week I'm getting rid of a lot of overflow on EBay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DazWah 0 Report post Posted October 18, 2014 Creole rooster In my opinion "Collins Hackle" have the best looking cree (check below). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites