Blueman89 0 Report post Posted May 31, 2005 Hey guys, just got the new Outdoor Life and on page 143 they have an article called The Dirty Dozen.It has 12 flies that they say will get the job done.Here they are: 1)Royal Wulff 2)Conehead Muddler- Yellow Marabou Version Pictured 3)Light Cahill 4)Tan Elk hair Caddis- CDC Legs on Pictured Fly 5)Yellow Humpy 6)Black Foam Ant 7)Bead-Head Soft Hackle Hare's Ear 8)Conehead Woolly Bugger 9)Parachute Adams 10)Yellow Stimulator 11)Weighted Black Stonefly Nymph- Double Gold Bead Thorax Pictured 12)Bead-Head Pheasant Tail Nymph I wanted to get some thoughts on what should should be added and what should be taken off. I think the list is Okay. I would put on a Beadhead Wooly Bugger and a Deer Head Hopper instead of the Stimulator. Let the debating begin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carver 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 I would replace the ant with blue winged olive and the rest looks ok to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flytyer-1 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 Blueman89- I would be reluctant to drop the Stimulator. On one stream in Massachussets, I caught a 14 in. rainbow fishing the Stimulator as a dry. Two casts later, in the same run, I was stripping the same Stimulator upstream and nailed a smallmouth. A very versatile fly: it can imitate caddis, stoneflies, hoppers, and baitfish- vary the size and color! Also they make great strike indicators! FWIW! Best from Nashville- Stack Scoville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Juan 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 I'd add a crackleback - love multi-use flies I'd replace the conehead muddler with a regular muddler - since I could then use it as a dry grasshopper imitation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaq 0 Report post Posted June 1, 2005 can't drop the ant. It's too valuable, as well as the stimmy. Drop the wulff and add a green weenie caddis pupa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uffepuffe 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2005 I guess this would vary alot depending on where your home water is. For me here in scandinavia I would probably switch more two thirds of those flies for the likes of Klinkhammer, Streaking caddie, Eurpea no12, caddies larva etc. For me who fishes in sweden, read alot of british flyfishing magazines and american forums it's clear that although we all are all fishing for the same fishes (who behaves very simillar regardless of where you fish it) the style of flies vary ALOT from country to country! Of course there are variations in the amount and type of food for the fish which affects the flies chosen, but still the variations isn't so big so it justifies the big difference in which flies are popular in each country. I think it's mainly a fashion thing! I learn alot by taking influences from flies and fly tiers from other countries which I can incorporate into my flies and tying technique. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornmuse 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE (Blueman89 @ May 31 2005, 06:00 PM) Hey guys, just got the new Outdoor Life and on page 143 they have an article called The Dirty Dozen.It has 12 flies that they say will get the job done.Here they are: 1)Royal Wulff 2)Conehead Muddler- Yellow Marabou Version Pictured 3)Light Cahill 4)Tan Elk hair Caddis- CDC Legs on Pictured Fly 5)Yellow Humpy 6)Black Foam Ant 7)Bead-Head Soft Hackle Hare's Ear 8)Conehead Woolly Bugger 9)Parachute Adams 10)Yellow Stimulator 11)Weighted Black Stonefly Nymph- Double Gold Bead Thorax Pictured 12)Bead-Head Pheasant Tail Nymph Well, first of all these are mostly trout flies. While trout are fun, I occassionally like to fish for big, mean animals like smallmouth bass, rather that focussing all my fishing time on "fancy bait" That said, I'd suggest that a universal fly selection would have a very different look. Here is what I consider to be the dirty dozen one should always carry in assorted sizes: 1)Clouser Deep Minnow, chartreuse over white 2)Traditional tie Muddler Minnow 3)Adams dry fly 4)Tan Elk hair Caddis 5)bead head wooly bugger - peacock herl body, olive marabou tail, grizzly hackle 6)Foxee Red Clouser 7)Gray Ghost streamer 8)Tap's Bug - yellow and red 9)Marabou Muddler - white w/ conehead 10)Sawyer style Pheasant Tail 11)Partidge and Orange soft hackle 12)San Juan worm YMMV Joe C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dble Haul 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2005 Any list like this is highly subjective and therefore subject to arguement. Why don't I see any pike or striper flies listed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uffepuffe 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE (Dble Haul @ Jun 2 2005, 09:38 AM) Any list like this is highly subjective and therefore subject to arguement. Why don't I see any pike or striper flies listed? True! I would't fish any of these for Pike, I saw the list as mainly a trout list. Altough I've caught Pike on montana size 10 it's a tad bit small when fishing for angry pike at +10 lbs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blueman89 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2005 The actual article is basd on Trout flies that you shouldn't be without. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dble Haul 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE (Blueman89 @ Jun 2 2005, 10:51 AM) The actual article is basd on Trout flies that you shouldn't be without. Sadly, that info could have helped us all if it had been included in your first post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redleg 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2005 QUOTE (cornmuse @ Jun 2 2005, 09:01 AM) QUOTE (Blueman89 @ May 31 2005, 06:00 PM) Hey guys, just got the new Outdoor Life and on page 143 they have an article called The Dirty Dozen.It has 12 flies that they say will get the job done.Here they are: 1)Royal Wulff 2)Conehead Muddler- Yellow Marabou Version Pictured 3)Light Cahill 4)Tan Elk hair Caddis- CDC Legs on Pictured Fly 5)Yellow Humpy 6)Black Foam Ant 7)Bead-Head Soft Hackle Hare's Ear 8)Conehead Woolly Bugger 9)Parachute Adams 10)Yellow Stimulator 11)Weighted Black Stonefly Nymph- Double Gold Bead Thorax Pictured 12)Bead-Head Pheasant Tail Nymph Well, first of all these are mostly trout flies. While trout are fun, I occassionally like to fish for big, mean animals like smallmouth bass, rather that focussing all my fishing time on "fancy bait" That said, I'd suggest that a universal fly selection would have a very different look. Here is what I consider to be the dirty dozen one should always carry in assorted sizes: 1)Clouser Deep Minnow, chartreuse over white 2)Traditional tie Muddler Minnow 3)Adams dry fly 4)Tan Elk hair Caddis 5)bead head wooly bugger - peacock herl body, olive marabou tail, grizzly hackle 6)Foxee Red Clouser 7)Gray Ghost streamer 8)Tap's Bug - yellow and red 9)Marabou Muddler - white w/ conehead 10)Sawyer style Pheasant Tail 11)Partidge and Orange soft hackle 12)San Juan worm YMMV Joe C. You forgot corn kernals and doughballs...... I've caught some very respectable Smallmouth on trout flies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bud Guidry 0 Report post Posted June 2, 2005 i would get a subscription to field and stream!Bud Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites