chollo23 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2009 i would also like to point out that the fly pattern says its for trout but it also works for steelhead, salmon, and Bass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange Caddis 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2009 Not to step in it. But the Santiam Stonefly can be tied with the other materials mentioned. As a matter of fact, most (if not all) flies can have material substitutions and still be highly effective. That's what I love about fly tying. Use what you have available, no need to search the world over for a particular material. Now that said, there are materials worth searching for, but swannundaze isn't one of them. Orange Caddis UPDATE: I noticed you are tying this pattern commerically. To find a steady supply of swannundaze would be challenging, I'd recommend trying some of the newer materials. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JSzymczyk 0 Report post Posted September 8, 2009 most (if not all) flies can have material substitutions and still be highly effective. That's what I love about fly tying. Use what you have available, no need to search the world over for a particular material. :headbang: :headbang: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chollo23 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2009 Yes Well that might be true in a normal situation, but this is a personal thing for me for the satiem stone fly was tyed by my instructor/ mentor and I need to get the material so he can tye me one last Satiam stone fly. For he's old and he had a stroke and I just want to see the fly before I lose the greatest person I know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted October 2, 2009 i'm looking at a piece of swannundaze and a piece of orvis body glass and there really is no significant difference. http://www.orvis.com/store/product.aspx?pf_id=1571 is it really about the swannundaze? will this person not tie you that fly because it doesnt contain non existant swannundaze or an extremely close substitute? your friend has been around for a long time and has seen things come and go. i think he would understand about the swannundaze being no longer available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandflyx 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2010 I have bought a lot of swannundaze, and will have for sale soon, pm me if interested in getting some. several hundred packages of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyfishinfo 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2023 Seems like we're all in the same boat. Yes, pun intended. I have very little swannuaze left I'm just like everyone else. What I do have left is 25 30 years old. I can't find it anywhere and honestly. I prefer it over today's material. Today's material just doesn't seem to have the width. You should only need 5 to 7 wraps. Today's material takes more like double the wraps 10 to 14 wraps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt Bob LeMay 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2023 If you're not able to find the Swannundaze you're looking for you might consider the clear V-rib instead. I found years ago, doing bonefish flies that the clear v-rib over a darker color did allow the darker color to come through nicely... the bottom fly is the clear v-rib over pink pearl flashabou to give you some idea of what I'm talking about... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandflyx 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2023 I have about 1000 packs I still sell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Knapp 0 Report post Posted November 29, 2023 7 hours ago, sandflyx said: I have about 1000 packs I still sell You could put it in "Classified" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandflyx 0 Report post Posted December 9, 2023 Mark I have a small shop in my house where I sell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites