Kirk Dietrich 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2011 I tied these up for a friend/client for his shallow water and bottom hugging redfishing. The reds ate them up last year so he wanted some more for this winter. I used the hollow tie for the two body colors and dubbing loop for the head color. Don't know how well the camera captured the colors but one is brown/red/tan the other is black/purple/grey. Kirk Unweighted for shallow water or fish high in the water column. One each weighted with medium and heavy lead eyes for when the fish are deeper and/or preferring to look down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iFly 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2011 Sweet! I really like the color combo's. Will have to tie some of these soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DavidR 0 Report post Posted August 21, 2011 Me like - will have to give some of them a try around the outside of the grass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panama Red 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2011 Great looking flies Kirk, like the use of a dubbing brush for the front portion of the head. Is that a brown body with the red abd tan head? Awsome! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
agn54 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2011 great looking flies, Kirk. I love the idea of combining hollow tie for the body and a dubbing brush for the head. Do the the ones with the lead eyes ride hook point up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirk Dietrich 0 Report post Posted August 22, 2011 Thanks guys. Panama, yes it is brown tail/body with red body/head and tan head. These two color patterns worked great last fall and winter. Agn, not sure about the 1/20th oz lead eyed fly but the 1/40th rides hook point down. Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tailn'Jax 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 Those are awesome Kirk. Are those big winter time reds hard to feed or will the chase a fly pretty well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirk Dietrich 0 Report post Posted August 28, 2011 Those are awesome Kirk. Are those big winter time reds hard to feed or will the chase a fly pretty well? They chase pretty well, you just have to get the fly down on their level. They aren't often in the super shallow stuff you normally find reds in. If they are in 18 inches of water, that is shallow and really great. More often, they are in a little deeper water like three feet. Being that deep you don't normally see them until you are less than forty feet away so you have to make quick shots and have a fly that will get down to them fast before the boat gets close and you spook them. That is the challenge, having a fly that gets down but has enough presence to interest them. Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaron Murnane 0 Report post Posted September 19, 2011 how do you make the heads on those? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirk Dietrich 0 Report post Posted September 20, 2011 Aaron, it is a technique called loop dub. You secure a loop of your tying thread to the shank, place your dubbing material, in this case 1.5 inch length pieces of EP fibers in the loop and then with a twister, twist the loop. Basically you are making a hair rope and then just wrap it on the shank, tie off and trim head to shape. Here is an excellent tutorial done my forum member Steve P. The title of his post in case the link doesn't work is, SBS Pimp Slap. http://www.flytyingforum.com/index.php?showtopic=60986&st=0&p=474301&hl=+loop%20+dubbing%20+head&fromsearch=1entry474301 Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJD 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2011 Kirk, you're an old pro and know most of the tricks, but I've been playing with something you might like to try. I've been wrapping a small pieces of palmer chenille (the stuff that has <1/2" mylar hanging off only one side) with my dubbing loops for nice effect. It seems to be an easy way to add flash to the head area without substantially increasing the effort for a production tier. The flies look great BTW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirk Dietrich 0 Report post Posted September 24, 2011 JJ, I like that idea. I like flash in the head and have cut fine flash and laid it on my track of material when putting it in the loop but never tried the long stuff you're talking about in the loop. I tried wrapping it alongside the twisted dubbing loop but it didn't work very well, twisting it in with the loop could work well. Thanks, that's the great thing about fly tying and fishing, there's always something new to learn. Kirk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bowfin47 0 Report post Posted October 14, 2011 Kirk, you're an old pro.. Hey Kirk, How does it feel to be called "old"? Just remember that your younger than me! Ha! Kyle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites