BigEHokie 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Okay, I know this might sound like a really odd question, where do you draw the line for using materials to fly tie? The reason I ask is....I have two rather large hairy dogs that shed ALL OVER the place. One is a yellow lab and the other is a st bernard/border collie mix. When we brush them, we get huge balls of hair...some of which look a lot like fly tying materials I've seen in magazines (I'm still new to all of this). Don't worry, I'm not gonna go shave the family dog I was wondering if anyone has ever tried this? Is this a really silly question? Do any of you have any odd sources for fly tying materials that deviate from the norm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DancesWithHeadCement 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 There is no norm...nothing is off limits, nothing sacred. I think I went off the deep end when the neighbors medium blue dun cat wanted to be scratched ... I'm looking at the fur in my hand and combed snot out of the little beast. He didn't mind and neither did I. As long as the material has some quality that can be used, go for it. Synthetic materials especially, as most of the common ones we use came from some other industry and were never designed for fly tyers. A household pet should be harvested "naturally" otherwise you got some serious 'splaining to do when the dog's arse is bald as a cue ball. It's a renewable resource - don't "clearcut" more than a couple of square feet at a time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al Beatty 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2008 Hi BigE, I don't think anything is off limits if (1) it catches fish and (2) it pleases you; not everything will please everyone else but pleasing yourself is an important part of the game. By the way, my fly-fishing companion (besides my lovely wife Gretchen) is a chocolate lab. "His name," you ask? "Dubbing," would be my responce. Now I wonder how he got a name like that? Take care & ... Tight Lines - Al Beatty www.btsflyfishing.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grunt 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Once you start tieing flys you will never look at a road kill without thinking " oh yeh" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Steelhead 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 I have 5 of the most loving dubbing manufacturers you ever want to find. Several different patterns in my arsenal have come from them and fortunately for me, I never have any explaining to do, wife does the brushing and fills the ziplock bags for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
netabrookie 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Hello, I'm sure glad that this subject was brought up, because I was starting to worry about myself. Now that I see that I am not alone with this sickness, I feel a whole lot better!!! I can spot something a couple hundred yards ahead of me on the road and I start to wonder if its a possible new addition to the ever growing collection or just a bunch of litter from a thoughtless person. I keep a pair of cutters designed for cutting battery cables in my Bronco all the time. They will take a buck tail off at the base in about 2 seconds. I cant bring myself to run an animal down with a vehicle, but its fair game if its a fresh kill. Now that everyone said its OK, I am getting the comb and heading for my neices cat. Take Care, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 I have seen it alot on here about road kill used as material thing I never see anyone mention is all those forest rats dead everywhere but no one picking them up come on people possum is the softest dubbing around I got 6 pelts last fall 2 of which came from my tires as far as off limits nothing is I am a firm beleiver in if god didn't intend me to tie a fly with it he wouldn't have given me the thought of using it :headbang: :headbang: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fowlmood77 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 My yellow lab regularly contributes to my tying addiction and they look good if I do say so myself. Wish the camera wasnt on the brink so I could show off. I also have a miniature pincher I have had my eye on , but she has some really short hair. Yup, I have officially lost it :bugeyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
netabrookie 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 But we love it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grunt 0 Report post Posted March 2, 2008 Historically Japanese potters kept "brush dogs" around their workplaces. The artists used the hair from the dogs to make brushes for decorating their pots with slip and glaze. All this has been going on for as long as they have been making pots, a thousand or more recorded years. I've got three fly dogs but my other,a potter, uses store bought brushes except for a couple she made out of bamboo and some of my bucktails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CM_Stewart 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 where do you draw the line? I seem to remember a post some guy made a while ago, I think on a different board, asking pretty much the same question. Seems his wife's cat just died and he wanted to skin it. His wife said no. That is where I'd draw the line. After all, it was her cat. If they're your dogs, go ahead. If they're really your wife's or your daughter's, you'd better get permission first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sal Velinus 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 Remember it is illegal to have bird of prey feathers, songbirds, etc, even if they are roadkill. That said, many of those species makes great flies, and I doubt anyone would give two shakes if you had some eagle, wolf, or grizzly bear flies in your box. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harold Ray 0 Report post Posted March 3, 2008 I have some pink and lavender dress shirts I wear to the clinic. After washing and drying them, they leave some of the most beautifully colored lint in the lint collector; I've been tempted to try to use that in some way for dubbing. Its got to be broken down cotton fibers. Haven't dome it yet but maybe one of these days! Ray Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chase Creek 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 Seems to me some states have regulations concerning ANY kind of road kill. Better to ask than have to pay a fine. Other materials I've used - candy bar wrappers, Tyvek, Coffee beans, foil from the vacuum seal of plastic coffee cans, Klondike bar wrappers, hair from my Brindle Boxer (looks a lot like squirrel), etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fowlmood77 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2008 Seems to me some states have regulations concerning ANY kind of road kill. Better to ask than have to pay a fine. Other materials I've used - candy bar wrappers, Tyvek, Coffee beans, foil from the vacuum seal of plastic coffee cans, Klondike bar wrappers, hair from my Brindle Boxer (looks a lot like squirrel), etc. Coffee beans???? Please do tell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites