Bob21 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 Im going to start tying them. I just need to go out and get the rite dubbing. I am just confused with one thing. Most of the recipes Ive found online call for TMC 300 hooks which are 6x long. So for example if Im trying to imitate a size 4 Salmon Fly nymph am I going to use the size 4, 6x hook. Or if Im trying to imitate a large golden stone nymph that is a size 8, am I going to use a size 8, 6x long hook? It just seems to me like a 6x long hook would be too big. But maybe Im wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 i googled for the recipe and found 3 different hooks to tie it. mustads, dai riki, tiemco use what you feel comfortable with Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 I use the 5263 when I tie them and I usually go one size down for the fly I am trying to imitate ie: size 6 stone use a size 8 hook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fiShawn 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 Unless the flies are a consistent size and the fish are really finicky then it shouldn't make too much of a difference, just observe the hook and if it looks to big before you've put materials on it, then chances are that you won't be satisfied with the final outcome. I would suggest something like a size 4 3xl or 4xl for a size 4 stonefly nymph.....I would agree that a 6xl would be overkill, plus I've found that the longer a shank is ...the weaker the hook will be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bad fish rising 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 i like #8 hooks that have a thorax bend just for stone flies daiichi i think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockworm 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 Regardless of hook style, you don't want the shank to be longer than the insect. Your best bet is to consult a good reference book such as Schweibert's Nymphs for the sizes of the stoneflies you will be imitating. As Kauffman points out in his book Tying Nymphs most species are between 3/8 and 1 3/8 inches. (Although Pteronarcys can be up to 2 1/2 inches.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockworm 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 I like to tye my "semirealistic" stoneflies on a salmon hook. AJ spey hooks come in a range of weights and give the fly a subtly-curved body. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moscow 0 Report post Posted November 9, 2010 I imitate a large golden stone nymph that is a size 8, am I going to use a size 8, 6x long hook? This was tied on a Daiichi 1270 #8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishAholic85 0 Report post Posted November 10, 2010 For some nymph flies and stones, I like using TMC2302 "Slightly humped shank, Down eye, Standard wire, 2X Long, Forged, Bronze. For Caddis, Hoppers, Stoneflies, Terrestrials." TMC 200R and Mustad C53S are nice too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites