petelangevin 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 Is there a webpage that gives the changes in these reels over the years? I am trying to get an idea of age. Looking at a basically new old stock 8/9 reel and it says scientific angler as a division of 3M, i know now they are part of Orvis. Any ideas? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 when did orvis aquire sci angler reels from 3m? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petelangevin 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 Says it on the web. On the sa website it says 2013. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
saltydancindave 0 Report post Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, petelangevin said: Is there a webpage that gives the changes in these reels over the years? I am trying to get an idea of age. Looking at a basically new old stock 8/9 reel and it says scientific angler as a division of 3M, i know now they are part of Orvis. Any ideas? ORCA old reel collectors association https://www.orcaonline.org/ might have info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petelangevin 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 Thanks Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaydub 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 I'm not sure of the year, but the first one I bought says on the back "System Two 67-L" then a horizontal line and below that "Scientific Anglers/3M" then "Made in England" and has a stainless spool cover (center cap on the handle side). I got one later, I think in 1993. It just says "System2" on the back and has a black plastic spool cover. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikemac1 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 Several years back I had the pleasure to help my friend Bruce Richards, former fly line guru at Scientific Anglers dispose of a massive hoard of fly rods, reels and flies on Ebay accumulated over his 35 year career. Among the hoard of course were several dozen System reels. There have been at least three generations of these reels and as far as I know, they were all (except the System 3) manufactured by Hardy in England. The earliest generation came out in the early 70s along with the first System rods (fiberglass generation) and are characterized by solid frames (see pics). The next generation followed the System G rods (early graphite) in the late 70s and early 80s. They have perforated spools. A third generation of reels appeared later with the name System 4, 5, 6 etc. that were essentially Hardy Marquis reels. SA also produced the System 3 Big Game reels in two sizes in the USA. Don’t see these very often. I’ve attached some of the photos we used on Ebay. My suggestion would be to contact SA directly and ask for the introduction dates of the different System reel models. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petelangevin 0 Report post Posted April 3, 2020 Ty for all the info, reel got sold out from under me, But its good info to now know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites