dbracertaylor85 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2005 Does Anybody know of a good carp fly i fish on the St louis river up in norhern for pike and smallmouth and we have always saw carp and i was wondering of a good one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparkleminnow 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2005 My best fly for common carp, overall, was a sz 8 ginger woolly bugger. Other flies have caught them, but that size and color seems to be my best. You might try other colors, though. Basically match what they are feeding on. If that happens to be Cheetos by the boat dock, or crab apples by the creek, just match what they are feeding on at the moment....just like trout. Cottenwood seeds, mulberries, corn where river barges get loaded, mayflies when the hatch is big enough, grass hoppers when there are a large enough quantity, crayfish, minnows, worms ,etc, etc, etc. They are omnivors, and will eat whatever they can find in a large quantity. Heck, train them to eat Trix cereal for long enough, and you can bet the farm on the fact that they will take a floating globug pattern of the same color! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HideHunter 0 Report post Posted July 25, 2005 I'm relatively new to this game and really want to try everything. I've fished for carp quite a bit with bait, (even done a little of the European stuff) so the other day when I saw a dozen, or so, carp feeding on the surface I tossed in a #12 foam ant. They never quit feeding but avoided the thing like the plague. I was a little let down and glad I had no witnesses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JarrodRuggles 0 Report post Posted July 31, 2005 try a heavily weighted glo bug egg (the color should resemble dough) kinda of a light brown. We tear them up on the ouchita all the time!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hard 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 Crayfish patterns, clousers, nymphs, ect. Have a look under the species page there are a few patterns there. Here is something to think about carp are like bonefish they are mainly bottom feeders but will also take minnow immatations as well. They are also know to eat berries, and other floating things. When I was a child the main bait was a rolled up ball of cornmeal, I guess the orriginal form of power bait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TxBuddha 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2005 Try here: http://www.texasflyreport.com/forums/book%.../m_49143/tm.htm About half way down the first page is a pattern one of our local guys, Long Haired Dave, ties and uses. Dave guides for carp and has put quite a bit of R&D into this fly, there is more info in the link. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIG BOPPER 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2005 Looks like a good fly. I want to try and get his book. The only time I could get carp on the fly was during the cicada hatch in'04. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redwings1 0 Report post Posted November 5, 2005 I use primarily the tan Lil' Bugger, a crayfish, or a meaty nymph like a Brer Possum or Clouser Swimming Nymph. I have found that carp will go after nearly anything that is presented right. Thanks to their swim bladder being connected like an amplifier to their ear membrane and their excellent vision, that can be tricky. As a rule I find it extremely important, due to the mouth structure and location, to fish on the bottom only flies riding hook up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duffman 0 Report post Posted December 12, 2005 i have had a lot of luck catchin carp on olive wooly buggers and clouser minnow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dragon 0 Report post Posted December 13, 2005 I would have to agree with the majority of the group. :headbang: The woolly bugger is the way to go. :yahoo: My particular version is the olive conehead. Also deadly on my local bass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conehead 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 While Smallmouth fishing this summer I was buzzed by a pod of carp that must have held 60-100 fish in the 14-18 inch range. We were waist deep and the fish were cruising about a foot under the surface. We were motionless and they just seemed to cruise areond the three of us unspooked. Every once in a while one would eat something off the top. I tied on a #12 olive bullet head hopper, made about 60 casts, finally one came to surface and just sucked in down. What a thrill, played him for about 10 minutes and he spit the fly out. Tuff lips. The did chase and oberve many types of flies we threw at them, but this was the only taker. Conehead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ralph Jones 0 Report post Posted December 14, 2005 Down here in Alabama I tie a Wooly Worm to match the Oak Moth or tent caterpillar. I use a size 8 Mustad 9672 or a Cabela's 40 hook to imitate the caterpillar as well as possible. I also always mash down the barbs on all the flys I tie. I tie it unweighted and grease the hackle to float the fly. I've caught almost every species in the area, Large & Smallmouth Bass, Kentucky Spotted Bass, Channel cat, Carp, Buffalo, Bluegill, and others on this fly under the caterpillar webs. Some of these fish were big. Ralph Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites