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+1 here in MN, freshwater drum are referred to as sheepshead, some of the locals shorten it to just "sheepies". I was confused when I moved here from TX, but there you have it with local terminology. Same with the post earlier mentioning dogfish.. bowfin in some places, small shark species in others. I've yet to catch a sheepie on a fly, but sometimes I can't keep 'em off my cut bait when going after catfish. I've tossed flies after catching a half dozen in a short period of time to no avail, but it was pretty murky water in the 'sippi.
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I don't bother with a taper on my 9wt most of the time. Let's face it, I'm flinging big waterlogged streamers that push water or creating a commotion with poppers. 20lb mono is my go-to. Fly line to mono to fly. I don't even really use a terribly long section of mono. I'll use a small section of more bite proof material at the fly if I'm worried about esox, which I usually am. WIth my 4wt, I use a store bought tapered leader, and tie on 4lb test tippet. THAT is when I usually try to be sneaky and have a delicate presentation
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Definitely look like they'll catch fish!
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Advice Strictly For The Beginner
mainbutter replied to Evans1's topic in Fly Fishing Gear & Techniques
As a poor out-of-college student I was able to afford the Cabelas package that comes with rod, reel, line, rod case, and many accessories including a how-to DVD, in a 4wt for panfish. If I was giving my young self advice on what to purchase, I'd recommend that same product. I'd say "think about going for a 6 or 7wt, but that 4wt really is perfect for panfish and smaller LMB." I'd also say "watch out for doorways, they are hazardous to rod tips on long rods". -
Wacky rigging is unweighted. Stick a hook right through the middle of a soft plastic, no weight. Weight several inches below a hook that is baited is "drop shotting". These flies look like they imitate a senko or other stick bait rigged "wacky" style. Typically the soft plastic baits that are fished wacky style are made by mixing very fine sand or salt into the melted plastic, because most of the plastics used commercially are buoyant. A standard senko sinks a few inches every second with a "shimmy" motion during freefall. I love these flies and have been meaning to try to imitate a senko myself because of the success I've had with them! I pour my own soft plastics though so it's just as easy for me to use the real thing. Drop shotting is a technique I haven't used much but I have had success with while ice fishing, using a weight to drop a really small fly and keep it 6'' off the bottom. Open water I tend to fish over weeds a whole lot, while drop shotting really shines on reefs, over gravel, and across sand. If I tried drop shotting in the weeds I'd come up with a line full of snags and salad.
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Rod for Muskie/Pike Question
mainbutter replied to muskyhunter81's topic in Fly Fishing Gear & Techniques
9wt has me happy for pike. I haven't tried big musky flies yet, but I'm itching to. I'm a little intimidated to try something like a big 12 inch fly, but I'm not writing it off yet. Do you think you can get more size from your setup than you're casting now? I know I can, but I'm sticking to 6'' long flies for the most part. Some of them are pretty heavy and weighted for some jiggy action though. -
I'm not sure how it'd be different with small trout, but when I'm fishing pike/musky/bass (or 12-15lb alaskan silver salmon) with a 9wt fly rod and beefy rabbit strip flies, my rod doesn't have the UMPH to set big hooks. I point the rod at the fish, take up slack, and give a hard pull on the line. This is the only way I found to really bury a bigger hook, especially into bony mouths. There is NO finesse to this. Muscle that hook point deep, and using stretchy monofilament as my leader (sometimes a fluoro tippet) will offset any risk of shock breakage. That said, I don't always set the hook hard. If I'm catching small bass all day and am content to let a few get away, I might not "set" it at all. A sharp hook often does a good job on its own when a fish chomps down.
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Salmon fishing in Michigan/in general
mainbutter replied to m_grieb's topic in Fly Fishing Gear & Techniques
As of my recent trip to Kodiak, AK, I can say that Alaskan Silvers and pinks coming up streams WILL attack flies, not all caught are "flossed". This was my first trip with a fly rod to AK, crystal clear water to watch 'em see a fly, only to turn-chase-CRUSH! Pinks - I had the best luck on the smaller flies in my box.. pink marabou or rabbit fur was the material of choice for a variety of ties. Silvers - I had my ONLY luck with a purple/black egg sucking leech pattern. However I did have a 14.5lber put my 9wt to the biggest test it's ever seen! Fast stripping did not get fish's attention in the current, all my takers were on slow drifts. It was sure fun to see fish see it and react to it. Of course with a big school of pinks, for every one that paid attention another twenty couldn't care at all. -
It depends state to state, some have a "within X inches of the mouth" rule to accommodate barely missed strikes that hook outside the mouth and that notorious "fixed bead followed by a bare hook" fishing tactic.
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Working in retail management, I've gotta say that so many of the behaviors listed here would get any one of my employees fired, or at the very least a final warning and a long discussion. The worst part of some of the terrible experiences described here is that the workers in these fly shops violated the #1 essential rule of retail: SALES. Refraining from derogatory terms to describe these individuals and their behaviors is difficult, but I'll avoid it. They failed to act in the best interest of the business, heck they failed to show common decency towards other people. My best advice to anyone who has this experience is to report it directly to the management. There may be some cynicism as to whether such comments are listened to, but at least in my business they are. In fact you may be doing them a favor, you never know when an employer is in need of an excuse to fire a poor employer but doesn't have documentation to do so safely.
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Long story short: Kodiak Island, this August 20, never fly fished for anything except LMB/pike/sunfish in the midwest. I have a 9wt 9' TFO signature II and WFF line. I am hoping to get my first salmon on a fly if I can find some that are running, but I have no idea what species will be running the day or two that I will have to fish. I'm hoping silvers, pinks, or chum will be running as I have had the best luck getting them to hit artificials on spinning gear. Any suggestions on flies that I should bring along or how to fish 'em? Google hasn't been very friendly trying to find information about fly fishing Kodiak, most of the guided fishing websites I come across say "Fly fishermen must bring their own gear".
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Bear Spray Recommendations???
mainbutter replied to mridenour's topic in Fly Fishing Gear & Techniques
I've fished in bear territory and have seen them while on the river in AK.. all big coastal browns, and more frequently than I like it's a momma with cubs. I give mommas the whole river. I share the river with loners, but take a long walk if I've seen a bear. I also never fish solo in bear country. I never carry bear spray. -
The most noble fish? The Whale Shark, because of its grace and majesty. The most noble fish that I've caught on a fly? The Bluegill, because I can always count on their behavior to help me figure out where the bigger predators are.
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What to tie for Large Mouth and Small Mouth Bass? Materials?
mainbutter replied to jamesbrock3's topic in Beginner's Corner
Anything streamer looks like a minnow or a crayfish, or even just fuzzy and bug like, will work for LMB and SMB- 14 replies
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I have 4 colors I use: - black - red - white - clear monofilament Most material covers my thread. The red will stand out on occasion and that's fine. I do match my white patterns with white thread, and will use monofilament fishing line to tie some streamers where I don't really want to see thread, but its mostly for aesthetic reasons.