Alex C. 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 I decided I want to pre sort all my dry fly hackle by size. I can't see spending the $10 that my local fly shop wants for a hackle guage so I figured I could just make my own. Does anyone know where I can find a chart that will tell show what the right length in millimeters diferent hook sizes are, I'll probably base it off 94840's? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 Why do you need one of those? When you bend your hackle around the hook, the fibres should have the same length as the hookgap. No rules without exceptions, but thats a good rule of thumb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex C. 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 I thought it was 1.5X the hook gap or 3/4 the shank length? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hard 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2006 J.Stockard sells one for $ 1.75 Or you can make one with 2 pieces of wood and a finish nail. one for a base and the other as a vertical stand. measure up from the nail Hook size.............................................Distance from nail in inches 1........................................................1 1/2 2........................................................1 1/8 4........................................................15/16 6........................................................27/32 8........................................................3/4 10......................................................21/32 12......................................................9/16 14......................................................15/32 16.......................................................3/8 18.......................................................9/32 20.......................................................3/16 Any smaller I do not have. Sorry no metric Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Redwings1 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 I bought a hackle gauge a few years back for about $2 and found that it helped to get me going. Once I have a fly or two done I can usually eyeball the feathers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex C. 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 I just hate the time wasted searching for the right size feather in a neck. I figure this way If I need a coupel for a size 12 I can just grab a couple of what color I need and already know they're the right size for the fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeFish 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 hey OLB, I have presized all of my genetic saddle hackle. I have each size and color in its own standard letter envelope. I dont know if I would consider doing this with a neck, as there is a very large distribution or sizes and shapes on a neck, whereas on a saddle, there are very long consistent feathers in a range of sizes between 12 and 20. with most being 14-16. oh, and it does speed up tying, and I feel more confident in the hackle I have chosen. I used a cheapo hackle guage that slides on the shaft of my vise. Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conehead 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 OLB, I picked up one of those cheap guages similar to Swinks talks about; I think it's a Griffin (worth every cent). I have just about plucked all of my necks (at least the hackle in the #10 to #24 range). I use the guage which is fast, pack them in snack size (half size) baggies that have a velcro square on each one. I have a lazy susan rack that holds about 130 baggies, all attached with velcro. Every bag is labeled and it makes tying soooooo....... muchhhhhh........ easier. I pluck and sort while watching TV for tying later Sorry that the picture is so fuzzy. Conehead Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert_S 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 MMMmmmm 200 for a vise, 300- 1000 for materials, 100 for tools, 100 for tying books, 100 for hooks double all that because now the wifes wants to spend the same amount on shoes as you do on your flytying stuff, And your looking to save 2-10 bucks on a hackle gage? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
calebB 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 he hehe :hyst: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcfly 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 Ok conehead, your tying desk just gave me the shivers! Man I wish I was organized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hard 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 I always thought it was 1 and 1/2 the gap too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex C. 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 MMMmmmm 200 for a vise, 300- 1000 for materials, 100 for tools, 100 for tying books, 100 for hooks double all that because now the wifes wants to spend the same amount on shoes as you do on your flytying stuff, And your looking to save 2-10 bucks on a hackle gage? Why would I pay $10 for a sticker attatched to a piece of plastic that I found online(thanks Crotalus), printed it out myself, as many as I need, FOR FREE. Nah, I waste my money on alot of stuff but not that particular item. $2-$3 maybe, but not $10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted January 4, 2006 Didn't whiting put a hackle gauge on the cardboard liner in their hackle that you can cut out and glue to whatever. I know I've seen them on the back before. Fatman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Hard 0 Report post Posted January 4, 2006 MMMmmmm 200 for a vise, 300- 1000 for materials, 100 for tools, 100 for tying books, 100 for hooks double all that because now the wifes wants to spend the same amount on shoes as you do on your flytying stuff, And your looking to save 2-10 bucks on a hackle gage? Why would I pay $10 for a sticker attatched to a piece of plastic that I found online(thanks Crotalus), printed it out myself, as many as I need, FOR FREE. Nah, I waste my money on alot of stuff but not that particular item. $2-$3 maybe, but not $10 Got a link for this treasured item? Im sure there are alot of people that would love to download and print off the same thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites