rawfish 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 Time for a new vise. :yahoo: My funding has limited me to under 80 dollars or less (lower the better). I was hoping for a true rotary vise. These seem to be my two final contenders. Any experience or advice between the two? http://flyfishtools.safeshopper.com/2/430.htm?643 http://flyfishtools.safeshopper.com/44/441.htm?643 Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timenet 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 May I suggest a DanVise get it on EBay for around $63+S/H :yahoo: , good Luck and happy tying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stony 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 http://www.jsflyfishing.com/cgi-bin/item/OF-900805-0000 I would choose this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stony 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 you beat me to it by seconds. :hyst: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytyingscotsman 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 The Danvise is definately the way you want to go, if you're after true rotary for $80 or less. I used a Danvise for years and was very satisfied with it. Fly-Tying Scotsman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeldrifter 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 The Griffin Odyssey Spider is actually a very good vise. I have a friend that has used it for the last 2 years and he really likes it, plus its about $10/$15 cheaper than the Danvise so thats hard to beat. I'd stay away from that first one you linked....its not even a brand name so theres no telling what type of quality it is, but for the price I would say its not very good quality wise. Go with ethier the Griffin or the Danvise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytyingscotsman 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 If I'm not mistaken, the Griffin Odyssey Spider is a non-cam vise (the Danvise has cam operated jaws). If you don't care about that then I don't believe there is too much that separates the Danvise & the Spider. Fly-Tying Scotsman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rawfish 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 So two questions based on what you guys are saying: Why would I care about whether it has a cam operation or not? And secon: is there a pedestal that fits the danvise? Thanks as always. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phg 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 You didn't say how you arrived at your choices, so let me toss out something else. The Griffin and the Danvise are both pretty good, but take a look at this one that Hook & Hackle sells: http://www.mailordercentral.com/hookhack/p...?number=9402001 It's on sale for $36 right now. I have a friend who bought one over a year ago, and is very happy with it. The choice between cam/lever action and knurled knob is a personal preference. Strictly speaking, the cam action is faster, but for a beginning tier, that's useless. I like the security of screw knob. If the hook twists a bit, you just torque it down a bit more. Once you become a proficient tier, you may want to switch to a cam action, especially if you decide to do production tying, but for now, I don't think there's enough difference to base you choice on that feature. Most current vises use a 3/8" shaft. Consequently, pedestal bases are interchangeable, and generic bases work on all of them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert_S 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 Phg-- that looks like a Winner to me. The Dan-vise has too much junk around the business end of the thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytyingscotsman 0 Report post Posted December 28, 2006 PHG covered the cam versus screw-knob differences; the reason I pointed out the difference is most guys won't go back to the screw once they have used the cam action. Pedestal for Danvise is a problem; it has a metric dimensioned stem which is just a tad too big for a standard 3/8" pedestal (and possibly any other accessories you might want to slip on there, like hackle gauges etc). Maybe there's someone out there who has reamed a standard pedestal fitting for a Danvise ..... Fly-Tying Scotsman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steeldrifter 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2006 Just as phg said the choice of thumb screw or cam lever is all personal choice. I have a Renzetti that I have had for 15 years so it was made before cam levers where on vises so I am use to the screw and like that better than a cam action for my own personal taste. But someone that has used a cam lever would probably feel the same way about that, so its all a personal thing. Also note- The Danvise has a different size stem then other vises. Most other vises are a 3/8" stem, but the danvise is a 10mm stem which equals out to .393 as opposed to a 3/8" which is .375 Its not a huge difference but it can be enough to make the danvise stem not fit into a base made for "most" vises. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex C. 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2006 If I were you I'd try to test drive whatever vice you can get ahold of before you throw your money down. Everyone so far has given you some great advice. Personally, I love the Danvise. I got mine 2 years ago when I started tying and have literally tied thousands of flies on it and still haven't had a single problem with it mechanically or functionally. The only thing that I can see as a negative about it is kind of on the same page as what plumbob mentioned, and that's the way the jaws are almost too close to the main body of the vise. There is an extension arm available that fixes this that you can get from Al Beatty for around $20. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stony 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2006 The only thing that I can see as a negative about it is kind of on the same page as what plumbob mentioned, and that's the way the jaws are almost too close to the main body of the vise. There is an extension arm available that fixes this that you can get from Al Beatty for around $20. I have the extension arm and it makes a world of difference when tying streamers and longer patterns. If you are just into tying smaller flies, you wouldn't necessarily need the extension but it makes everything feel less clustered up when tying. Even the smallies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brandon722 0 Report post Posted December 29, 2006 Hey rawfish - I own that vise (I have for 4 years now) and I love it. I am thinking about getting another vise because they are so cheap - and you never know when they will stop distributing them. Again, you can go with the DanVise, or whatever, but you won't beat that price. Brandon www.rockymtnfly.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites