cornmuse 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 A new addition to the fly pattern database has been submitted by cornmuse: Renegade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cornmuse 0 Report post Posted July 3, 2007 If you haven't read Georges Odier's 1984 book Swimming Flies, you should. That book marks the point where high-stick nymphing really becomes a complete and unified system of fishing. The fly Odier recommends is a bit unusual - a dry fly fished as a nymph. He likes the Renegade fished on the bottom with shot a few inches above the fly. I think this may have started life as a wet fly, but I've known it as a dry fly. It's a neat pattern that I fish during the summertime. I've had success on the Cumberland with this pattern when the Japanese beetles were on the water. I also like to fish it damp or dry as a caddis imitation. Odier suggested this was imitating a caddis pupa when he fished it as a nymph. Chuck Fothergill also listed the Renegade as one of his favorite nymphs in the book Masters on the Nymph (sounds like a tacky BDM porno-movie title to me, but there you go :hyst: ). Full video instructions for tying the fly are available from the Apple iTunes Store or directly from Fly Fish Ohio. Joe C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7wt 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2007 Nice, I really like the classic 1950's style flies. Grab an old fiberglass rod and hit a small stream, my style of fishing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad Jack 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2012 I really like the Renegade. It is a classic pattern...and it still works. I use it as a searching pattern, but often find I don't use anything else for the day. I like to use them dry, but as has been alluded to already, they work fairly well submerged. Go figure. Best of all, the Renegade is fairly straight forward to tie. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oatka 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2012 This is the only fly I remember my grandfather ever using. I have one of his flies, and I'll never risk losing it in a tree, so it sits on my tying desk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
perchjerker 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2012 Over the years, I have had great success with it letting it drift down as a dry, and pulling it under at the end of the swing, and retrieving as a wet. Most of my fish have been taken when fishing it as a wet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
netabrookie 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2012 The brookies in Virginia seem to have a taste for them and as mentioned before, more often wet than as a dry. oatka, I am still having to fish these "crooked" and "cripple" creeks... Take Care, Tony Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2012 Lovely fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaydub 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2012 Great pattern! I notice you tie it with the brown hackle in front. I've most often seen it and tied it with the white in front. Not that it really matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2012 i too thought the white hackle was up front http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo=d&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=renegade+fly+pattern&oq=renegade+fly+pattern&gs_l=img.1.0.0i24j0i5i24l2.72997.77409.0.81551.8.8.0.0.0.0.200.1049.0j7j1.8.0...0.0...1ac.1.GZq_42fnw54&biw=801&bih=501&sei=Sma1UNr4ONHW0gHphoDwCA nice history on the fly here http://renegadefishers.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Istripbuggers 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2012 Ive heard that this fly was originally tied as a snail imitation which might explain why it works well submerged, but it makes a great dry as well. the brookie in my avatar was actually caught on a renegade off the top real early season in my local meadow. this fly has memories for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Piker20 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2012 Love peacock herl on my flies. This thread tempted me to tie a wet version that makes a lovely teardrop shape when wet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites