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100 denier GSP but I have some bad experiences cutting hair with it. Anyone know if the #200 would reduce that risk, its thicker, in theory that should help?

 

Tom

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100 denier GSP but I have some bad experiences cutting hair with it. Anyone know if the #200 would reduce that risk, its thicker, in theory that should help?

 

Tom

 

Looks good on paper, as they say.

 

Cutting the hair is probably a mix of factors including technique, TOO much thread tension which is easy to do with GSP, and the quality of the hair itself.

 

I have had some pieces of deer hair, including a few of the alleged "Premo" strips, which were just fragile as hell, and would cut and break no matter what I did. Deer hair varies HUGELY in quality from piece to piece. All other things being equal, try some hair from another piece of skin.

 

It is entirely possible to apply too much thread tension with GSP and cut just about any hair. It is slippery instead of abrasive (more or less) so you really have to crank down to cut with it, unlike Kevlar thread which seemed to cut every clump of deer hair I ever tried to tie with it.

 

 

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100 denier GSP but I have some bad experiences cutting hair with it. Anyone know if the #200 would reduce that risk, its thicker, in theory that should help?

 

Tom

 

Looks good on paper, as they say.

 

Cutting the hair is probably a mix of factors including technique, TOO much thread tension which is easy to do with GSP, and the quality of the hair itself.

 

I have had some pieces of deer hair, including a few of the alleged "Premo" strips, which were just fragile as hell, and would cut and break no matter what I did. Deer hair varies HUGELY in quality from piece to piece. All other things being equal, try some hair from another piece of skin.

 

It is entirely possible to apply too much thread tension with GSP and cut just about any hair. It is slippery instead of abrasive (more or less) so you really have to crank down to cut with it, unlike Kevlar thread which seemed to cut every clump of deer hair I ever tried to tie with it.

 

 

Thanks. I think its probably deer hair quality. I try to be careful not to crank down too hard on the thread. I find it cuts more often with belly hair, less with body hair.

 

Tom

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Dyed belly hair does tend to be more brittle, which is a consequence of the dying process. A quick test in the shop for determining if it is very brittle is to take three or four fibers between the thumb and index finger of one hand and gently pull with the other. If the tips break off readily, it is too brittle to tie with. If you acquire your hair by mail order, you are stuck with what you receive.

 

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I started spinning with deerhair and kevlar which works pretty well, but have switched to 120 and can do it better now. I do have some 100 and 200 GSP on order and am looking forward to trying it. I also spin Pronghorn Antelope and Dall Sheep hair and the Dall is my favorite; spins well and is durable. Pronghorn is a great hair, but fragile and you can't reef down on it like other hairs. Contact a taxidermist and get your hands on some Dall Sheep cut offs.

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All the above mentioned all work well, the GSP and the GX2, however I have used Roman Moser Power silk, it is very strong in fact you can't pull too tight or you will cut the hair completely. A gentleman by the name of Tom Steinberg, a truly fantastic Deer Hair specialist turned me on to 4lb Fireline. Of course you will have to spool it onto the bobbin, but it is fantastic and based on price cheaper than anything else. Strong as hell for spinning or stacking .

 

 

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I have used the 4lb Fireline, and didn't like it. I don't remember exactly what all the reasons were, but it was just not good for me. It is definitely not cheaper than GSP, $15 for 125yds of fireline vs. $3.25 for 50yds of GSP...

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I like using danville's waxed flymaster plus 210 or the flat waxed in 210. I have spun deer hair in 140 danville before. Not something I really what the try much.

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