mlwebb 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 A new addition to the fly pattern database has been submitted by mlwebb: Usual (Fran Betters) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJ All Day 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 I love this fly, it's always a fish catcher. Nice tie! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RagingBull 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 nice tie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodd Gunn 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 I never heard of this pattern before this past Saturday evening. A fellow gave me a sample and asked if I could tie some for him. Utubed it and got some information on the pattern. Tied him a dozen. I think he will be happy. Have you ever tied other colors? Rodd Gunn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
utyer 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 Nice tie. I have used comparaduns (very similar,) in many combinations of wing and body colors. Right now cream is the only rabbit foot I have. As soon as I can round up some dun, I am going to try some BWOs with the under fur as wings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Hat 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 Great pattern and great job tying it. This is a pattern I always have in my box. I usually carry this original, and also a BWO pattern with dun colored hare's foot and red thread, also a larger generalist pattern with a cinnamon color hare's foot and dark brown thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnP 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 That fly has fish-catcher written all over it! Great tying job on a classic pattern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvendon 0 Report post Posted February 28, 2011 Hi mlwebb, You did a really great job on this fly, especially on the body. If you are/were looking to get a Usual as close as Fran used to tie his, just cut the length of the tail in half, or a little more. He tied his VERY short, many times not going much beyond the bend of the hook. He also used tan and grey thread, besides the fire orange. He used Austrailian possum and muskrat dubbing for different body colors as well. I took a look in your pattern submission, and this is actually a caddis pattern, not a mayfly immitation. He actually used this one as a caddis emerger pattern. He wrote me that he would throw it out across and down, and then wait for it to sink towards the end of the float, and then do a slow pull-up after it became submerged, that's when a fish would most likely hit it. Regards, Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlwebb 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2011 Thanks guys(?) for the kind words and additional information. This pattern is new to me too, just stopped by the flyshop on the way home from work and picked up some dun feet, to try some BWO/caddis versions. I have been tying some other Fran Betters patterns too, haystacks and Ausable Wulffs - the West Ausable flies look like they would translate well to my local Oregon rivers. I'll shorten the tail Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fly_fischa 0 Report post Posted March 1, 2011 Great looking tie and great photo, thanks for sharing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dafunk5446 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 Great fly! We have an odd, highly location specific hatch of a very large PMD on the Big Thompson that this fly does a perfect job of imitating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riffleriversteelheadslayer 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 great fly and pic as others have stated I know this fly has saved the day on more then one occasion and to top it all off don't think its only for trout alot of bluegills have fallen prey to its uncanny fish attraction properties Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ic3wind 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2011 This is hands down my favorite all around fly. I've used it for warm and cold water and its never failed me. A couple of the previous posters are dead on If you let it sink at the end of the drift and slowly pull it up trout have a tendancy to smash it pretty fiercely. I've also dubbed these with a very thick thorax and it will push water much like a popper. Thats what makes it great for Blue gills and when tied in @ #12 will manage to fool the occasional Bass. I once even got results putting a sinker on one and fishing it like a nymph. This guy is a pure meat taker. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeremy Parker 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2011 Hi mlwebb, You did a really great job on this fly, especially on the body. If you are/were looking to get a Usual as close as Fran used to tie his, just cut the length of the tail in half, or a little more. He tied his VERY short, many times not going much beyond the bend of the hook. He also used tan and grey thread, besides the fire orange. He used Austrailian possum and muskrat dubbing for different body colors as well. I took a look in your pattern submission, and this is actually a caddis pattern, not a mayfly immitation. He actually used this one as a caddis emerger pattern. He wrote me that he would throw it out across and down, and then wait for it to sink towards the end of the float, and then do a slow pull-up after it became submerged, that's when a fish would most likely hit it. Regards, Mark Mvendon I agree with most of your information here except the part about other materials?? I took lessons from Mr Betters many yrs ago. The other material he liked to use if it was not a rabbits foot was actually groundhog! There is two shades of underfur on a ground hog both light brown and very dark brown! The key to this pattern was the natural oils within the fur! The original inspirasion for this fly came from one of his other patterns the hay stack !! Blessings Jeremy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvendon 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2011 Jeremy Parker said: Mvendon I agree with most of your information here except the part about other materials?? I took lessons from Mr Betters many yrs ago. The other material he liked to use if it was not a rabbits foot was actually groundhog! There is two shades of underfur on a ground hog both light brown and very dark brown! The key to this pattern was the natural oils within the fur! The original inspirasion for this fly came from one of his other patterns the hay stack !! Blessings Jeremy *** Regards, Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites