Lotech Joe 0 Report post Posted December 10, 2011 Hook: Mustad, #8 Streamer. Thread: UNI 6/0 Olive. Tail: Olive Marabou Tips. Body: Twisted Marabou. Rib: Heavy Gold Wire. Thorax: Twisted Marabou. Wing Case: Pheasant Tail. Eyes: Bead Chain. Head Cement: Sally Hansen. Next time I think I'll use black bead eyes instead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flymanaj 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2011 Nice fly. I tie one that's similar but after tying in the tail, I make a marabou rope and wrap it forward. Usually have to do some trimming, but it works pretty well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ditz2 0 Report post Posted December 11, 2011 I like it. I will try it on the gills in the local small creeks. I agree on the black chain eyes. May also be good on Carp. Thanks for posting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
creekwalker 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2012 Good looking fly think I will have to make a couple. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigfoot 0 Report post Posted January 12, 2012 Looks great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dayhut 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2014 I tie the same thing with a few changes: - Dark eyes: black or brown - I do the twisted rop body like Ditz. - I add hackle legs. Same general thing with good results. Dont wanna fool with all the intermediate wing case business? Just tie a Briminator and trim away the hackles on top. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclif43 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 Nice fly. Is this designed to ride hook up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jclif43 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 Sorry, just realized this was an old thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted January 1, 2015 Nice fly. Is this designed to ride hook up? it would the way the beadchain eyes are on top of the shank. Which doesn't make much sense as to why he tied a wing case on top of the shank. Either the eyes need to be on top and won case on bottom or vice-versa because the bottom of the nymph would face up here, but I guess tumbling down in current it wouldn't matter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2015 Bead chain eyes don't effect the weight distribution enough ... I think the hook bend and point will "keel" this fly point down. But, as you say, Fisher ... tumbling rules out any orientation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2015 Bead chain eyes don't effect the weight distribution enough ... I think the hook bend and point will "keel" this fly point down. But, as you say, Fisher ... tumbling rules out any orientation. Yes they do... That's why some flies use beadchain in place of barbell eyes when you want a slower sink, or for shallow water... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
retrocarp 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2015 Nice pattern think i'll use this one on the locals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2015 Bead chain eyes don't effect the weight distribution enough ... I think the hook bend and point will "keel" this fly point down. But, as you say, Fisher ... tumbling rules out any orientation. Yes they do... That's why some flies use beadchain in place of barbell eyes when you want a slower sink, or for shallow water... Maybe my experience is different, but I check out all my flies in the water. I'd have to see video or pictures of a fly, like the OP picture, sinking with the hook point up. I don't tie with barbell eyes, (don't even have any) because most of the water I fish is too shallow to bother with fast sink rates. The only way I can get flies to sink with the hook point up, is to tie "beards" or "wings" on the hook point side. The drag of the wing material offsets the weight of the hook point and they then fall hook point up. I didn't set out to make this fly weedless with by covering the point: I set out to make it weedless by sinking hook point up. Turns out, it's especially weedless because of both. But my point is, nothing I tie with bead chain eyes sinks hook point up unless I tie it with the wing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2015 Bead chain eyes don't effect the weight distribution enough ... I think the hook bend and point will "keel" this fly point down. But, as you say, Fisher ... tumbling rules out any orientation.Yes they do... That's why some flies use beadchain in place of barbell eyes when you want a slower sink, or for shallow water... Maybe my experience is different, but I check out all my flies in the water. I'd have to see video or pictures of a fly, like the OP picture, sinking with the hook point up.I don't tie with barbell eyes, (don't even have any) because most of the water I fish is too shallow to bother with fast sink rates. The only way I can get flies to sink with the hook point up, is to tie "beards" or "wings" on the hook point side. The drag of the wing material offsets the weight of the hook point and they then fall hook point up. I didn't set out to make this fly weedless with by covering the point: slow sinking corrected.jpg I set out to make it weedless by sinking hook point up. Turns out, it's especially weedless because of both. But my point is, nothing I tie with bead chain eyes sinks hook point up unless I tie it with the wing. In the morning I will take a picture Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted January 6, 2015 Took me a while, sorry. Notice how there's no wing on this crawfish carp fly. The beadchain eyes keep it hook point up. Sorry if the image is turned. My phone hates me I swear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites