josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2016 Just found this, they only have 1 hope someone here grabs it https://www.etsy.com/listing/400569123/grade-1-cree-saddle?ref=shop_home_active_1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2016 Just found out this guy is an up and coming hackle farm. Hes raising his own birds, nice to support the little guy. What do you think of the quality of the cree? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2016 without personal inspection it hard to to judge the quality of the hackle by looking at a photo never heard of him i'll leave my money in my wallet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2016 without personal inspection it hard to to judge the quality of the hackle by looking at a photo . never heard of him i'll leave my money in my wallet He just started raising the birds a year ago, I found him on facebook. I am not a good judge of cree but the price seems great Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mvendon 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2016 It's really not a very good price when you factor in all of the variables that you take for granted when you buy a saddle from Whiting Farms. Things like stem thickness, barb density, fly sizes, amount of usable feathers. Even if it was a cape, $70.00 is on the high side for a new to the scene non-commercial hackle producer. The Cree color might be rare, but it's not that rare. Regards, Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AZWoolybugger 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2016 I wish him the best of luck, we need more competition in this market. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted June 18, 2016 If it had been listed at $25 -$35 many would jump on it and if the stem wasn't quite right they'd use their tying skills to make it work right. I wish that folks didnt always have to compare every hackle to Whiting. Denny Conrad was non=commercial and many people used his hackle. This is a saddle Denny sent me for a piece of elk hair in a color he showed. Cree feathers in it but many others also, X2 AZWooly more competition is needed. , Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pabrookie94 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2016 The guy lives in southeastern PA and knows what he's doing, I believe he said his strain has been worked on for much longer than he's been alive and he is the apprentice to that man. I bought two saddles from the Lancaster show. Good quality for a good price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
josephcsylvia 0 Report post Posted June 18, 2016 He sold it and the cape Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebrant10 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2016 Hey fellas, been a few years since I've posted on here about my birds, just wanted to let you guys know some info on what's been going on. I've been working with my bloodlines for 6 years this may, over those years I've added quite a few birds from the original 8 that I had way back in the day. This year I have about 800 chicks on the ground and have added quite a few different bloodlines which most notably came from bobs hackle farm from York pa. I don't ever want to compare myself to whitings, because I'm not nor will I ever feel that I'm on any level comparable to what dr tom has done. What I do have is a decent flock of birds that tie well and have thin flexible stems with A decent barb count that's getting better each year. Hope everyone has a great day! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1hook 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2016 Can you give any info on your grading system? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebrant10 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2016 1 hook grade 1 and 2 capes will tie down to 20 and 22 with some going smaller, grade 1 capes will have a higher concentration of feathers than a grade 2 especially in the smaller sizes. Grade 3 will tie down to 18 and have less feathers on it. I sell a lot of grade 3 capes for saltwater flys. Saddles are a little different because I grade them on feather quantity and length, and mark down if they're more of a streamer type feather or a dry fly feather. Prices are the same for capes and saddles, grade 1 is $50, grade 2 is $40 and grade 3 is $30 and those prices include shipping anywhere in the contentinal US. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2016 Ebrant10 ... do you have a website? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ebrant10 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2016 Mikechell sure do https://www.etsy.com/shop/sidelinghillhackle?ref=search_shop_redirect Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1hook 0 Report post Posted June 19, 2016 Good deal, that barred dun cape looks nice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites