Dave G. 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 LOL ... Okay, I'll be the first one to notice the elephant in the room. If it IS a feather from a bird of prey ... the feather police now have your URL, your screen name, a picture of the feather and a GPS fix on every electronic device you own. Expect the kicking down of your door in the middle of the night ... soon. Oh I know Mike but I opted to just answer the question this time, in itself perhaps unusual . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVette 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 If it were an owl the trailing biots would look fuzzy/furry at the end to keep them silent it the air. Or is my eye-sight so bad i am not seeing it? You could try to match biots from one side to the other(obviously reduced to the smaller size) to make wings, knot the biots for legs,straight for antennae, tails and??? You could shellac the entire feather and cut hard wing forms for beetles and hoppers. I don't know...What do you want to do with it? I would probably make a hat clip out of it. That coloration would make a great sub for Kori Bustard. Too bad you don't have it paired... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIN-ITE 34 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 I'm going with Common Buzzard. Use the barred section to wind bodies of nymphs and dry flies. Or do like I do, stick it in the coffee cup on my desk with all the other oddball feathers that I have found on the ground. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 guys it comes from a "meowl" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted August 1, 2016 So, I took to Google for further review of your suggestions, and I am pretty sure FIN-ITE has it right. The Common Buzzard (buteo buteo) is found in Europe and Asia and the pictures of feathers I found match exactly what I have. I also read somewhere that it should be ok by the US Feather Police as it is a non native, non endangered species, and did not bring scavengers (wink, wink, you know who you are) onboard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 AH so it wasn't a hawk but still a raptor. Never heard a raptor called a buzzard that's just confusing haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVette 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 I am sorry but the picture of the whole bird looks like a hawk to me. Is this a language barrier thing or what? When some-one says buzzard i think of this; I don't understand why that is called a buzzard??? PLEASE explain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FIN-ITE 34 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 In Europe the genus Buteo raptor is known as a buzzard. In North America we call a Buteo a hawk, common example that most folks are familiar with is the Red-tailed Hawk. You can look up the definition of a Buteo. At some point in time the genus Cathartes, (vultures) name was bastardized and were called buzzards here in the New World (North America). So in Europe, the (Old World) they call a Buteo a buzzard, and here in the New World (North America) we refer to them as hawks. So a buzzard is a hawk, not a vulture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 In Spain the Common Buzzard is actually called an eagle, a "mouse hunting eagle" , or águila ratonera If you thought that tyer vs tier was confusing, don't even start going across languages... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrVette 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 Thank-you guys...Now i really am confused, but catching on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted August 2, 2016 This bird is scientifically named Buteo buteo everywhere, also called common buzzard in Europe, if you are speaking Brittish English. It is confusing because buzzard, in American English, is another word for vulture. In British English it is another word for hawk. So, In the US this bird is called a hawk. Now, it really gets weird when you are speaking Spanish to name the bird, because we don't use the Spanish words for vulture (buitre) or hawk (halcón), but the word águila, which commonly translates into all kinds of English as eagle. This going back and forth between languages reminds me of a time growing up in Spain, watching Western movies in Spanish. A frontier man would run into a Native American Indian and ask "Do you speak English?". The Indian normally answered "Yes". And the two of them would carry on... STILL in Spanish. WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THAT QUESTION!!!??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted August 6, 2016 Hate to tell you there are TURKEY in Spain - http://www.scirecordbook.org/european-wild-turkey/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2016 I am sure there are some, but I doubt they are truly wild turkeys. Maybe a case of private owners raising them in a farm/hunting ground. Now I am going to have to look it up...! Thanks, Buddy...! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fisherboy0301 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2016 Domesticated birds that have escaped years and years back and become wild there. Much like "wild" hogs here. Niether are native but both are wild. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted August 6, 2016 Can't come up with anything about wild turkeys in Spain other than a reference in a document from the Ministry of the Environment to birds raised in captivity in the Canary Islands. Ironic. They should be raising canaries. Let me know if you find anything. Time to reach for the other Wild Turkey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites