KGivan 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2018 What is the best material to use for Baetis nymph tails? I was trying to tie from a recipe by Oliver Edwards, it called for olive badger hair, which I have not found. I tried olive deer tail but it seems to flimsy. Please advise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimo 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2018 The hair from a shaving brush is badger hair.You'll love it because some of the hair is naturally split.Just color them with marker.Sample of what badger tails look like.Kimo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaydub 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2018 For small nymphs, I would opt for a feather fiber tail. Pheasant tail, Wood duck flank or, if you want something stiffer and a little more durable, Coq de Leon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spiralspey 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2018 I don't think there's any one best material. For little baetis nymphs I prefer partridge, but I've used grouse, various duck flanks, pheasant, rabbit, and fox squirrel, but I can't say the fish cared one bit which materials I used. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Knapp 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2018 "We don'd need no stinking badgers" He, he, he. Just kidding of course. I say make some with badger, and birds and everything else, and see what works best for you. Â I must tie some emergers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2018 I don't think there's any one best material. For little baetis nymphs I prefer partridge, but I've used grouse, various duck flanks, pheasant, rabbit, and fox squirrel, but I can't say the fish cared one bit which materials I used. I agree. I used to buy flies from a steam-side seller that used hackle stems for tail, nice curve and taper and they worked; today I looked at some that a successful angler was using that had what he said was Flashabou for tails. I used mono-filament on some that caught fish, but I didn't like them; which may show that fishers can be more selective than trout. Â However, I would say that if I want my fly to look like any pattern I would need to use the called for materials. That is why it is called a pattern. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2018 And there's "micro-fibbets". Much like the natural badger shaving brushes shown above, but synthetic. Some paint brushes have similar fibers. Unlike cheaper paintbrushes, however, micro-fibbets taper to a fine point. I think that mimics real insect "tails" etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2018 moose body hairs  moose mane hairs  peccary hairs  hackle fibers  pheasant tail fibers  partridge feather fibers  z-lon  woodduck/mallard feather fibers  squirrel tail fibers  microfibbets (or artists paint brush bristles. thats all what microfibbets are)  dont be stuck on one material just because a recipe calls for it. substitute Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandan 0 Report post Posted November 20, 2018 partridge fibers or spade hackle fibers or coq hen saddle fibers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NohackleHS 0 Report post Posted November 21, 2018 I've been using bronze mallard for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phg 0 Report post Posted November 22, 2018 For size 18 or 20, I just use a couple of pheasant tail fibers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandflyx 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2018 elephant body hair ! off of a live one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whatfly 0 Report post Posted November 23, 2018 Coq de Leon rooster saddle. Durable, and scales well. Oliver badger would be pretty hard to find, but you could always just take a magic marker to normal badger in a pinch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites