BigRedNZ 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Hi, I'm a new to fly tying. My vice arrived yesterday and I've bruised the bandwidth watching youtube. Here is my first fly, a black woolly bugger. I've done a mashup of tightlinevideo, david mcphail and intheriffle's techniques. ANY and ALL advice and criticism would be much appreciated. I've been watching this site for sometime (while I plucked up the courage to invest in the vice) and I know there are lots of helpful, experience people out there. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Shorten the tail to 1 hook shank long and you'll be ok Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedNZ 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 thanks, proportions seems to be the common failure of the new tier.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
utyer 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Yes, the tail needs to be shortened to about 1 hook length. The other area you should work on would be the ribbing and hackle. Your ribbing is a bit uneven, and I think you might use a thinner wire. On the hackle, try tying in the hackle at the front, make two wraps right behind the bead, and an even spiral back. Then use the wire to trap the tip of the hackle at the back and spiral the hackle forward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoebop 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Over all, a good first attempt. You are well on your way. You have to force yourself to shorten those beautiful marabou plumes. Good job! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedNZ 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Over all, a good first attempt. You are well on your way. You have to force yourself to shorten those beautiful marabou plumes. Good job! But they're so yummy & soft... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedNZ 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 Yes, the tail needs to be shortened to about 1 hook length. The other area you should work on would be the ribbing and hackle. Your ribbing is a bit uneven, and I think you might use a thinner wire. On the hackle, try tying in the hackle at the front, make two wraps right behind the bead, and an even spiral back. Then use the wire to trap the tip of the hackle at the back and spiral the hackle forward. Thanks utyer for the tips. The wire was small, but I'll drop to brassie on my next order of stuff. I can't believe how tiny things are when you start working with them, you never appreciate that when buying the flies. I will keep practicing my evenness of my ribs etc, I've got 25 hooks left and enough for black and olive woollys. I did the hackle/wire just as you described, but only 1 turn at the bead. I'll try two next time. Thanks for taking the time to feedback. I have no fly tying mentors, and Oxford (UK) is a trout hole with only corse fishing shops in the immediate area, so feedback like yours is really appreciated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
m_grieb 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 just shorten the tail and youre gold! Matt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phg 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 You can fix this one by just pinching the marabou fibers, a few at a time, and breaking them off. The problem with the long tail is that it will foul the hook when casting, after it's wet. Otherwise, well done. The uneven rib is because of the chenille. It's very hard to wind an even rib over chenille. You might also add a couple more strands of flash for more effect, but don't overdo it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 With that long tail ... just call it a leech, and everyone will think it looks superb. I noticed the rib wire is kind of all over. I think it's been mentioned, so I'll just say that I noticed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaydub 0 Report post Posted February 13, 2014 A long tail isn't necessarily a bad thing. Seal-buggers and Hale-Bopp leeches both use longer tails and are killer stillwater patterns. Try to keep the all of the rib wraps at the same angle and evenly spaced. Otherwise it's a most excellent first fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troutbum11 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2014 I wish my first wooly bugger look half as good, Nice Job! if your looking for flies to just catch fish with then you've done it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ikerajala 0 Report post Posted February 15, 2014 Another problem with a long tail is getting fish strikes short of the hook. A fish will get a mouth full of feather and no hook! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedNZ 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 Here's my next crack and I think I've over shortened this tail, so... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigRedNZ 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2014 I had another go, I'm pretty proud of this one. Fire away. Thanks again for the help Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites