vicrider 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2017 Yes, my daughter and SO have a reptile shop but I can't agree with their assessment of this snake found by my niece's kittens. It's only about 4 inches long and 1/8 wide and would make a great bass bait but I was ruled out on that one. I won't throw the ID that my daughter gave but though it is sort of in the pattern the one they ID'd is not listed in Western OK. I have some tools to enhance the pictures but the pattern and color is still true. One of the problems is something as simple as a garter snake has several different patterns depending on location and there is even a poisonous garter snake most people don't realized. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dflanagan 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2017 Looks like a western ground snake (Sonora semiannulata). Probably from this years hatch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockworm 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2017 I agree. These are small snakes and extremely variable in colour and pattern. Hard to ID. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike West 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2017 Yeah looks like a western ground snake but thier bands tend to extend all the way to the white part of their belly and yours dont seem to be like that. A lot of variations who knows Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2017 Agreeing with the above assessments ... a Groundsnake. http://www.oksnakes.org/admin/photogallery/images/ground%20snake%206.JPG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rockworm 0 Report post Posted October 4, 2017 Promise us this wasn't created at your vise! It would make an excellent "streamer" or "lure" I am sure the trout couldn't ignore! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poopdeck 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2017 Forget the snake, what the heck is an SO? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2017 SO = Significant Other !!! I'll bet yours will be pissed if she (he?) finds out you don't know what that means !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicrider 0 Report post Posted October 5, 2017 Nice picture Mike. I'm definitely going with a western ground snake. Don't know if my niece wants to raise this one up or just turn it loose but I've had a few snakes over the years and they are pretty much useless as pets but fun anyway. Poopdeck, SO usually means a serious relationship (theirs has been about 15 years) without paperwork to go along with it. Much more common today and though not always parents first choice it is more or less accepted today. Her engagement ring has probably been polished more times without a band next to it than most. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poopdeck 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2017 Got it, LIS (living in sin). I got a 26 year old daughter in one of them relationships. Only for about a year and they are scheduled to get married next year. It really drives her bananas when they come to visit and we make them sleep in seperate rooms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2017 Although I am married ... I am SO glad I am an atheist. No such thing as "sin" so no such thing as "LIS". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mybadhabit 0 Report post Posted October 6, 2017 Although I am married ... I am SO glad I am an atheist. No such thing as "sin" so no such thing as "LIS". I like this, I've been living with my SO for over 14 years, no need to spoil a good thing by getting married!! Since I don't believe in "sin" it makes it all that much better. Blane Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vicrider 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2017 Poopdeck, that's plain mean. If I was the SO with your daughter and came to visit I'd get a motel room. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2017 Poopdeck, that's plain mean. If I was the SO with your daughter and came to visit I'd get a motel room. LOL And then brag about what happens in the hotel room. Maybe even play audio recordings. Broadcast just how much fun "LIS" can be !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted October 7, 2017 I am with Poopdeck. I do realize that things change, but if those are the house rules, those are the house rules. HE can get a motel room if HE wants to. I suspect HE is actually encouraged to get a motel room... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites