atxdiscgolfer 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 Does anyone else have issues tying with their thread, the spool diameter is smaller than UNI, UTC or Danville and it seems like i always lose tension making it a pain using it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dubs 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 Never tried it but sounds like it isn't waxed enough Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zip 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 I used to use it many moons ago.Truth be told-i can't stand orvis fly materials.They seem poorly made and the price is just too damn much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 Don't really understand the problem, but two things come mind; I often pass the thread around a leg of the bobbin to increase winding tension and I have had a bobbin that I bent the legs more to make it hold small spools better. Finger pressure on the bobbin/spool as I wind allows me to pull harder on the thread sometimes too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2018 i dont think the "spool diameter" would have any effect on tension  rebending the bobbin holder arms will add more tension as well as palming the spool while wrapping  Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave G. 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2018 So basically you are saying the thread itself is fine but your bobbin arm tension is too light for their spools.. For me through all my tying life spool tension is/has been an on going battle and has needed adjusting of the bobbin arms periodically. I tend to find it too light and then tighten too much, getting it just right for UTC doesn't mean it's just right for Danville etc. I find Danville tan to need an exceptionally light tension or it frays on me, etc etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikechell 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2018 I may be doing it wrong, but I've always held the bobbin holder in my hand so that I am controlling the tension with my grip. It's become, somewhat, instinctive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2018 I may be doing it wrong, but I've always held the bobbin holder in my hand so that I am controlling the tension with my grip. It's become, somewhat, instinctive. Â ^^^ What he said. Â Here's another tip. If the tension is too light, you can add tension by wrapping the thread around one of the bobbing arms before threading it through the bobbin tube. The more wraps, the greater the friction. The greater the friction, the greater the tension. Â Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimini15 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2018 My question is: who makes the thread sold as Orvis? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm 0 Report post Posted February 19, 2018 Good picture of what I meant with thread around a leg, SilverCreek. Much easier than modifying the bend for every spool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave G. 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 I may be doing it wrong, but I've always held the bobbin holder in my hand so that I am controlling the tension with my grip. It's become, somewhat, instinctive. That works too, I do that on loose arms till I reset the tension. And I always do that with tying in bucktail or especially spinning deer hair. In fact on deer hair I tend to palm the spool between a finger and palm pulling straight down on the thread to snug it up tight. This becomes habit . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tjm 0 Report post Posted February 20, 2018 My question is: who makes the thread sold as Orvis? Really doesn't matter, if you make a product to sell with your name and your specs and you also make a similar product with my specs for me to sell with my name, the products will not be the same even though you made both. And next quarter or at the same time I could be having one or more other manufacturers making the product to my specs for me to sell with my name. Many manufacturers never use their own name on any product, some make the same product for different Names. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites