BassMaster6708 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 Do y’all have any suggestions for things to get for starting fly tying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 If you have an Orvis store near you they have a free Fly Fishing 101 class that will start up after Covid is over. Check with the store nearest you. https://www.orvis.com/flyfishing101 Also there is the FFI that has clubs. https://flyfishersinternational.org/Resources/Locate-Members/Clubs-Councils Things to get: Rod, Reel, Reel backing, Fly line, leaders, tippets, flies, vest or fly fishing pack, stocking foot Waders, Wading boot, Net there are a lot more ut these are the "usuals" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troutmaster08 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 There is an Orvis store near us. https://stores.orvis.com/us/georgia/atlanta I will also dm you some links. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 Beginner Fly Tying Tool & Materials Tying Tools This list of beginners tying tools is simply a list based on my 40+ years’ experience in fly tying. It is a BASIC list. This list is provided for your convenience and in no way requires you to buy all tying tools all at once or any tools for that matter. It is also a generic list of tools as I really don't have any preferences as to what brand of materials you buy. Any brands mentioned are purely for examples, not an endorsement. Again, you do not have to buy the entire list all at once! Buy what you want when you need it! In addition, buy the items that are affordable to you. There is no need to spend $$$$$ on tying tools when $$ are available and just as good to get you started. Essential *Tying Vise – Stationary, rotating or full rotating vises are all available to the beginner. Which vise you purchase is your decision. A good idea is to try them out at your local fly shop to see which vise will work for you. EXAMPLES Stationary – Does not rotate the hook Thompson Model A. Great to learn on and the least expensive. Rotating – Rotates the hook but not around the hook axis Regal, HMH, Anvil etc. C-clamp or pedestal versions. Full Rotating – Rotates the hook directly in line with the hook axis Renzetti, Peak, J-Vise etc. C-clamp or pedestal versions. *Bobbin Holder – Purchase a bobbin holder that has a ceramic tube or a ceramic insert in the tip of the tube. You can purchase stainless steel tube bobbin holders for use with ribbing wire, lead/non-lead wire and other tying materials. *Scissors – An inexpensive pair of Fiskar 4-inch dressmakers’ scissor is an excellent start and will cut just about any material out there. Yes you can cut wire with your scissors, just cut close to the pivot point There are too many scissor manufacturers to list here. See this recent article on scissors: https://www.flyfishfood.com/2019/06/the-best-fly-tying-scissors.html Less essential but useful later on in your tying adventure Whip finisher – There is the “Matterelli” style and the “Thompson” style whip finishers. Learning to whip finish with your fingers will save you a few bucks. Fingers are free! Bodkin - The bodkin is mainly used to put on head cement but has other uses such as picking out dubbing to make fuzzy bodies, picking out trapped hackle fiber from under ribbing wire, clearing out head cement from the hook eye etc. A bodkin is a simple DIY project. Just stick a needle into a small diameter dowel and voila! Bodkin. Half Hitch Knot Tool – This tool is for tyers who can’t or won’t use a whip finisher. Used to make half hitches at the hook eye to finish the head. Each tool has a different diameter hole drilled in each end to support different diameter hook eye sizes. Hackle Plier – Used to grasp the tip of a hackle to wrap around the hook shank. Fingers still work great for holding and winding hackles. Hair Stacker – After cutting hairs off of the skin, insert the hair tip end down into the hair stacker to even the tips of various types of hair such as buck tail, deer, elk, moose etc. Some experienced tyers still prefer to finger/hand stack hairs to prevent the paint brush look of stacked hairs produced from a stacker. Hair Packer – This tool is more suited for the tyer who wants to tie deer hair style bass and pike/musky fly patterns. Tweezers – This tool has many uses around the tying bench. Can be used to pick out fibers of errant materials, picking up hooks, holding beads etc. Dubbing Teaser – This is another DIY project. Glue a strip of Velcro to a popsicle stick or coffee stirrer and use it to scruff up dubbing for a fuzzy body Dubbing Twister – Use this tool in conjunction with a dubbing loop of thread and spiky dubbing to help create dubbed bodies, small dubbing brushes right on the hook shank etc. There are many styles of dubbing twisters. Search on-line and make a choice of which one you want. Comb – Ideal for removing underfur from hairs or furs. Especially useful for coming out the underfur on deer hair and buck tails for spinning hair and making streamers. A simple moustache comb is a good choice or combs made of antler. Bobbin holder threader – Insert the flexible wire loop into the bobbin holder thread tube, insert the thread into the loop and pull the tool to thread the bobbin holder. Totally not needed as you can insert the thread into the tube, put the tube in your mouth and draw/suck the thread through the tube. Dental floss threaders are an option. * A vise, bobbin holder and scissors are three basic tools that will get a beginner into tying flies. Poor quality tying tools are destined to discourage beginner tiers and cause greater expense when the time comes to replace them. Buy the best you can. Fly Tying Kits (Controversial but there are good kits if you really want one) https://shop.flyfishsd.com/collections/fly-tying-kits/products/dakota-angler-economy-beginners-fly-tying-tool-set https://shop.flyfishsd.com/collections/fly-tying-kits/products/premium-beginners-fly-tying-tool-set https://store.flyfishfood.com/Fly-Tying-Kits-s/4041.htm Fly Tying Tool Sets http://tyingvise.com/product/hmh-tool-sets/ https://www.royalgorgeanglers.com/rga-fly-tying-tool-kit.html https://loonoutdoors.com/products/fly-tying-tool-kit https://www.bobwards.com/colorado-angler-supply-soft-grip-leather-tool-kit-165478 Tying Materials This list of beginner tying materials is simply a list based on my 39+ years experience in fly tying. The list provided below is for a new tyer who wants to tie trout flies but can spill over to different genres of fly tying. It is a BASIC list. It contains materials that can tie hundreds or even thousands of fly patterns. This list is in no order of preference. This list is provided for your convenience and in no way requires you to buy all tying materials all at once or any materials for that matter. It is also a generic list of materials as I really don't have any preferences as to what brand of materials you buy. Eventually you will need materials if you want to continue tying flies. The list wilL give you a head start as to what you might want to buy. Again, you do not have to buy the entire list all at once! Buy what you want when you need it! 1. Hooks (in different styles and sizes) 2. Thread (6/0 to start in black & white) 3. Pheasant Tail (center feathers when possible for the longest fibers) 4. Peacock Herl (eye feathers and strung herl) 5. Marabou (blood quills are better) 6. Deer hair 7. Elk hair 8. Buck tail (in different colors like black, red, yellow, or white) 9. Lead or non-lead wire (in different sizes) 10. Ribbing wire (silver, copper & gold) 11. Rooster Hackle (grizzly, brown, white & dun) A good option is an introduction pack 12. Hen neck or saddle (grizzly, brown, dun etc) (great for soft hackle & wings) 13. Hungarian Partridge Skin (great for soft hackles) 14. Dubbing dispenser of hares ear (various colors) & superfine dubbing for dry flies 15. Gray duck or goose wing feathers (used for wing cases, biot bodies, tails etc.) 16. Head cement & tying wax (not immediately needed but nice to have on hand) 17. Tinsel and other flash materials (in assorted colors) 18. Calf tail (start with white, add colors when necessary) 19. Yarns & chenille (used for making bodies, both in assorted colors) 20. Floss/Uni-stretch (1 strand or 4 strand in assorted colors) 21. Strung hackle (practice wrapping hackle with this. cheap alternative to the pricey hackles) 22. Beads (not necessary to begin tying flies but if you really need them get them) 23. Rubber legs Poor quality materials are destined to discourage beginner tiers and cause greater expense when the time comes to replace them. Buy the best you can. A popular and frequently mentioned recommendation seen on most forums is to pick out 5-10 that you want to learn how to tie. Buy the materials provided in the recipes of those flies. These materials are now the building blocks for tying different fly patterns in the future. Fly Tying Material Kits https://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabelas-Premium-Fly-Tying-Material-Kit/744141.uts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poopdeck 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 The hardest part is getting started. Jump in, the rest will be easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 Are you trying to get into fly FISHING as the title of the thread says or fly TYING as your post says or both? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcozzz 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 If your fishing primarily warmwater,bass panfish etc,look online for vids and websites.Ward Bean is good one.All the basic tying techniques over lap but doubt you will want to tie anything smaller than sz 12 and for bass quite a bit bigger.So a vise that holds hooks better in the larger size range would be better.There are bass bug rods out there that will give you an easier time throwing bigger flies for bass .Buy a decent outfit but no need for a 600 dollar rod ,you may decide you dont like it or flyfishing in general.I started with a flea market vintage heddon glass fly rod and moved to graphite and now use only glass rods,mostly from the 60s and 70s.If you can find a group,many of the BPS now have weekly tying sessions you will pick up the basics much quicker than self taught,i learned from books pre youtube etc.All warmwater species can be caught on flies,i regularly catch bass,blugills,crappies perch carp white bass catfish and i even caught some bullheads last spring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris_in_Louisiana 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 2 hours ago, BassMaster6708 said: Do y’all have any suggestions for things to get for starting fly tying Do you have your tying tools/vise already? If so, I'd check into any local, region or even long distance clubs that offer tying sessions. A number that I'm involved with are doing monthly or twice monthly Zoom tying sessions at the moment. It might be worth signing up for one or more clubs and making a point of joining in on some of these zoom sessions. While not a local club for me, here's a link to a group in another part of Louisiana that I recently joined. Took part in my first Zoom tying session with them last month and have to say it was an enjoyable experience. http://kisatchiefly.blogspot.com/2021/01/january-virtual-tying-tuesday-sessions.html If there are any local clubs in your area, I'd recommend reaching out to them first and foremost. If they offer zoom tying sessions, it might be a nice way to get acquainted with the local group. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
troutmaster08 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 56 minutes ago, SilverCreek said: Are you trying to get into fly FISHING as the title of the thread says or fly TYING as your post says or both? I can answer for him as he is a good friend of mine. He has recently purchased a fly rod and would like to tie to get more specific flies for his waters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 29 minutes ago, troutmaster08 said: I can answer for him as he is a good friend of mine. He has recently purchased a fly rod and would like to tie to get more specific flies for his waters. I use a fly called an emu bugger for the smallmouth bass at our lake cottage in northern Wi. Here are closeup photos of an emu feather vs marabou. Notice the difference. The barbs of an emu feather are stiffer and more separated than the barbs of turkey marabou. Emu tends to hold its shape when pulled through the water and collapses less than marabou does. At the same time, it moves more than the stiffer hackle that is the normal wrapping of a wooly bugger. It makes the fly look more alive. If you palmered a wooly bugger using marabou, the marabou would collapse against the side of the fly. Of course regualr hackle does not, but it does not have the side fibers that emu does and I thin that makes for a "buggier" bugger. The pattern is here: http://www.bobsflybox.com/Fly Pattersn/EmuBugger Family.pdf Here are my Emu buggers. Mix and match the color of the tail and the chenille to get different colored buggers. Then you might just hook one of these. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skeet3t 0 Report post Posted January 2, 2021 As for tying, I have three sizes of wet fly/nymph hooks, four sizes of dry fly hooks, three sizes of 2X and 3X hooks for woolly buggers, bead chain or dumbbell eyes two sizes of brass beads. No more than a dozen types of material. In this neck of the woods, I can cover any place of warm water or cold water fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BassMaster6708 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 3 hours ago, SilverCreek said: Are you trying to get into fly FISHING as the title of the thread says or fly TYING as your post says or both? Tying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SilverCreek 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 You will find that fly tying hooks can be a major expense if you buy the name brands like Tiemco. Check out the house brand of hooks like the Saber from Fly Shack https://www.flyshack.com/DisplayCategory.aspx?CatID=660 Or Allen Hooks. https://www.allenflyfishing.com/fly-tying-hooks/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 Here's a nice site that has a nice price for named hooks - Rod Building Supplies | Lure Making Supplies | Fly Tying Supplies | Fishing Hooks (jannsnetcraft.com). Kim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted January 3, 2021 Hooks http://www.wholesaleflycompany.com/category/page=2/catId=4559236 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
