flytire 0 Report post Posted March 21, 2022 21 hours ago, WWKimba said: Ann's flies - Day 3. Borcher's Drake - This fly was originated by Ann Schweigert and originally used condor quill fibers for the body. Ausable river guide Ernie Borcher added grizzly hackle to the brown and the fly became the Borcher's Drake Special. Hook - Mustad 94840 or 94833, 8-18 Thread - black Tail - 2-3 moose main fibers Body - turkey quill fibers Wings - light dun hackle tips Hackle - grizzly and brown i'm confused. which happens more often than not if ernie borcher added a grizzly hackle to the schweigert original pattern, what was the original schweiert pattern called? This fly was originated by Anne Schwiegert, who ran a fly shop in Roscommon. The original hackle was brown, and the original body was condor quill fibers. Ernie Borcher, an AuSable river guide, added the grizzly hackle to the brown and it then became known as the Borchers's Drake. Tied spent wing it's known as Borcher's Special. (2) Borcher's Drake Fly Pattern | Michigan Sportsman Forum (michigan-sportsman.com) condor body and brown hackle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2022 8 hours ago, flytire said: i'm confused. which happens more often than not if ernie borcher added a grizzly hackle to the schweigert original pattern, what was the original schweiert pattern called? This fly was originated by Anne Schwiegert, who ran a fly shop in Roscommon. The original hackle was brown, and the original body was condor quill fibers. Ernie Borcher, an AuSable river guide, added the grizzly hackle to the brown and it then became known as the Borchers's Drake. Tied spent wing it's known as Borcher's Special. (2) Borcher's Drake Fly Pattern | Michigan Sportsman Forum (michigan-sportsman.com) condor body and brown hackle Got my info from fly historian, Tom Deschaine's work. I believe she tied with grizzly only originally. And I can be confused easily too! Kim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philly 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2022 I've been tying up some Stimulators, not sure whether they would be consider trout or panfish flies. More likely I'll use them for panfish, since we don't have any giant stonefly hatches around here. Hook - Ahrex Traditional Shrimp hook, size 6(only curved hook I had Thread - black, orange or chartreuse Tail - deer hair(from a deer's mask) Body - Senyo Laser Dubbing Body Hackle -brown Wing -deer hair(from a deer's mask) Hackle-grizzly or brown grizzly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFoster 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Philly said: I've been tying up some Stimulators, not sure whether they would be consider trout or panfish flies. More likely I'll use them for panfish, since we don't have any giant stonefly hatches around here. Hook - Ahrex Traditional Shrimp hook, size 6(only curved hook I had Thread - black, orange or chartreuse Tail - deer hair(from a deer's mask) Body - Senyo Laser Dubbing Body Hackle -brown Wing -deer hair(from a deer's mask) Hackle-grizzly or brown grizzly Fine looking group- Stimulators work well on newly stocked trout even if you don't have the large stonefly hatch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFoster 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2022 I'm still filling empty spaces on the nymph side of my box. This pattern caught my eye. PEACOCK RIVER NYMPH HOOK: #14 CURVED THREAD: #70 CHARTREUSE AND #70 BLACK UNDER BODY: CHARTREUSE THREAD TAG: CHARTREUSE THREAD WITH LOON FLOW U.V. ABDOMEN: PEACOCK HERL -2 STRANDS THORAX: HARESEAR ICE DUB- PEACOCK/ORVIS DUBBING – DARK OLIVE. HEAD: BLACK 2.8MM BEAD AND BLACK THREAD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2022 Streamer Adaptation of a Theodore Gordon Bumblepuppy Fly Pattern 🠊Adapted by Ruben Martin🠈 Streamer Fly Pattern Hook - Long straight eye shank (I used Daiichi 2370) Thread - White flat waxed nylon Tail - Red bucktail under white hackles Ribbing - Red wire Body - Embossed silver tinsel Belly - White bucktail Wing - Gray squirrel tail Head - Built up with tying thread and colored red with a sharpie marker Eyes - Silver and black stick on Head coating - UV Resin followed by Sally Hansen Hard as Nails Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philly 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2022 Time to step away from trout and move over to warm water. These are tied on 1/16 oz jigs. Main target will be crappie, bass and rock bass. Hook: assorted 1/16 oz jigs, size 6 hooks Thread: clear polyester Wings: bucktail, assorted colors Flash: Crystal flash I still have to finish up the 1/32 and 1/20 oz batch. I'll post them when I get them tied and take some pictures. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/21/2022 at 11:51 AM, flytire said: i'm confused. which happens more often than not if ernie borcher added a grizzly hackle to the schweigert original pattern, what was the original schweiert pattern called? This fly was originated by Anne Schwiegert, who ran a fly shop in Roscommon. The original hackle was brown, and the original body was condor quill fibers. Ernie Borcher, an AuSable river guide, added the grizzly hackle to the brown and it then became known as the Borchers's Drake. Tied spent wing it's known as Borcher's Special. (2) Borcher's Drake Fly Pattern | Michigan Sportsman Forum (michigan-sportsman.com) condor body and brown hackle I see the problem and it's been corrected - I mixed pineapple on my pizza! Sorry for the confusion, Norm! Kim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2022 Ann's ties - Day 6 AuSable Queen - This pattern was not as widely known as her AuSable King pattern. As the name implies it's the female version tied with an egg case and uses a hair wing. Ann first tied this pattern in the 1950's. Hook - Mustad 94840 or 94833, 10-16 Thread - black Egg Sack - green yarn Body - 2-3 peacock herls, twisted then wrapped Wing - white calf tail, tied caddis-style Hackle - brown dry fly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasing_Tails 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2022 Hi-Float Caddis, Tan Hook: Mustad 94840 Dry fly, #14 Thread: Uni-Thread 6/0, Rusty dun Body: SLF Super Brite dubbing, tan Rib: Wire 0.2mm, brown Antennae: FTD Mayfly Tails, dun Wing: FTD Hi-Float Fibers, light dun Legs: FTD 14-40 legs, tan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chasing_Tails 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2022 Creeper: Hook: Mustad 3906 nymph, #14 Thread: Uni-Thread 6/0, olive Bead: Brass 1/8", black nickle Tail: Ultra chenille, light olive Thorax: SLF Super Bright dubbin, light olive Legs: Creepy Crawly Ice Dub, brown (palmered dubbing loop) Back: Turkey tail Shell: UV resin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWKimba 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2022 Ann's ties - Day 7. Lake Erie King - A blowfly imitation designed by Ann Schweigert and Clem Thompson in the mid 1950's. Clem used this when he fished at his cabin on Houghton Lake. Ann's husband, Jack, had a limerick about this pattern: “This is the fly that’s used by Clem, He flips it out and back again, He very seldom catches a fish, But calls it their best dish.” Hook - Mustad 94840 or 94833, 12-18 Thread - black Tail - black hackle fibers Body - peacock herl Wings - grizzly hackle tips tied raised and split delta-style Hackle - brown and grizzly, mixed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2022 Loeberg - Olive Guinea Tom Loe Originator Hook - Tiemco 100, Mustad 94840 or equivalent, size 8-12 Thread - Red Body - Flat pearl tinsel Wing: Natural guinea feather marked with olive marker or dyed olive feather Overwing - Grizzly hackle tip Cheeks - Flat pearl tinsel Hackle: Silver badger or brown Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DFoster 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2022 22 hours ago, WWKimba said: I see the problem and it's been corrected - I mixed pineapple on my pizza! Sorry for the confusion, Norm! Kim Confused or no I'm tying that one, It looks like a killer dry! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytire 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2022 Solar Panel Nymph Hook – Mustad 3906 or equivalent Bead – Black brass or tungsten Thread - Tan Tail - Brown hackle fibers Under body – Gold krystal flash Over body – Rust color v-rib or liquid lace tubing Wing case - Gold krystal flash Thorax – Tan ice dubbing Legs - Gold krystal flash Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
