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  1. Your mention of home-made flotants reminds me of when I was participating in a fly fishing camp as a youngster, one of the old timers was talking about his secret, special flotant recipe. He had a jar of what I think was white gas and who knows what else that he'd dunk his fly in. I remember jokes about its toxicity. Can't imagine something like that would be good for the angler or the water. I can only imagine what some people out there use!
  2. Are you looking for classic, full dress type salmon flies a la Green Highlander, Jock Scott etc. for fishing? Or are you looking for display stuff? It's been a while, but I've sold display flies in the past and once made classic salmon fly boutonnieres for a guy's wedding. Could also tie some on eyed hooks with more generic materials more suited to the use and budget of fishing. I don't have an abundance of extra time on my hands but depending on what you're looking for may be able to help you out. Feel free to PM if you're interested.
  3. flykid

    iPhone case

    I think you're right! Just looking at my phone now and it has a small pass-through for a lanyard. I'll have to try that out. Ya, I think I joined here when I was 13, a lot sure has changed on the forum and in my life since then. Definitely fully immersed in the adult life experience at this point! I'm up in Michigan so we have quite a few Brookies around here. Honestly been a while since I've caught one though. I love catching them in the small, overgrown streams.
  4. flykid

    Song of the day

    Never saw the Grateful Dead live. I'm a quite a bit too young to have caught them in their prime. I know they still have a touring group with remaining members as the Dead and Co. which I've heard is still a great show. I think you're right about Joe Cocker Shoebop, he did cover a lot of songs, love his style though. Good to have you here, Al. Sounds like you've got some good stuff to share!
  5. flykid

    Song of the day

    I'm a fan of the Grateful Dead. Sometimes that mellow jamming is just what the doctor ordered.
  6. Chug, not sure how old that catalog is either. It is a cool resource though. I'm not sure I have an official answer to your question, but can provide a little insight. Originally, these flies were absolutely tied to be fished, I'd say almost exclusively. Many patterns are not nearly as complex as all the most popular ones you see like the Jock Scott, Green Highlander etc. and many patterns didn't use a lot of exotic materials. A lot of patterns used simple mallard for wings, wool for bodies, european jay for a throat for example. I believe a lot of the most elaborate patterns were developed in the Victorian and surrounding eras where you see elaborate designs and displays of excess in many aspects of life. Think houses from that era, very stately, ornate and adorned with trim, hand carved embellishments etc. I think that mindset transferred to salmon flies of the time. As people explored the world, they found the exotic birds and before there were regulations they harvested them for their plumage for things like hats, mounting in display cases, museum collections etc. and also made them available for salmon flies. My point is, the elaborate and exotic designs were definitely used to appeal to the people fishing and tying the flies, but the flies were still intended to be fished so originally I wouldn't say there were separate artistic and fishing flies. I'm sure there are exceptions to this, however. Historically, These flies were mostly tied in hand using no bobbin with waxed silk thread. This technique can certainly produce a beautiful fly, but will be much harder to keep it as refined as many of the show pieces you see today. I'm sure the tyers of old didn't spend hours on each fly since they were tying for fishing. Those tyers were not spinning their bobbin to flatten the thread and making sure they always made side by side wraps. There was also a focus on making a durable fly. If you look at a deconstruction of an antique fly you'll see they spiraled the thread forward or backward routinely and often threw a half hitch on between steps so they fly wouldn't fall apart when they worked to prepare materials for the next step. There are people now who tie in this manner and they tie wonderful flies but they have a bit of a "patina" that is visible in the fly which many find appealing. If you get a chance, look at some old books on the subject by people like William Blacker, Tolfrey, Charles and Mary Orvis etc. You'll see the illustrations on the plates in those books also show less-than-perfect flies. I don't think tying crisp, framing quality flies was the priority. As far as your question about married wings, from what I've heard from people who still fish these, the married wings don't stay married. I think it's a technique that is/was probably largely done for the aesthetic, though I can't say for sure as I have no experience fishing married wings. I don't know if my ramblings make much sense or answer any of your questions. There is a lot to discuss with the topic and I'll try to start providing some of this information to this section of the forum over time for those who wish to understand the history more deeply. In summary, I think you are correct about there being two camps of tyers today, but originally these flies were definitely tied for utility and I think techniques seen most often today differ quite a bit from techniques used in the "old days".
  7. Thanks everyone! Glad you are all enjoying it. It is a pretty neat pattern and I had fun tying it. Only wish I had tied it on a slightly nicer hook. I didn't notice the color pattern repetition either, good eye. Thanks for the birthday wishes too, SalarMan!
  8. Thanks guys! I was definitely not around during the prime of most of these bands but grew up loving the music since it's what my dad always had playing. It was a fun project though, for sure! Mike, thanks for the comment! It's been a while so I can't remember what exactly the visuals looked like, I must have thought the colors fit the feeling, who knows. But, I agree, it's an interesting idea. I started a project many moons ago where I was tying a fly inspired by every Rush album. Got quite a few done but not quite all. I enjoyed the challenges though.
  9. flykid

    Song of the day

    Again, not to rag on the Beatles too much, but here is a version of "With A Little Help From My Friends" written by Lennon-McCartney, that I think just blows the Beatles version out of the water. It's one of my all time favorites, but it has to be this particular performance. I generally just really like Joe Cocker as well.
  10. flykid

    Song of the day

    As far as the Beatles, I'm okay with them but definitely never got as crazy about them as many people. However, i do understand why they were such a big deal in music. While we're on the topic of classical music, the above aria is one of my favorites. I've really started appreciating opera in the last few years and really enjoy the entire Turandot opera. I'd love to see one some day.
  11. Since this is the Classic and Artistic forum, I will share a purely "artistic" fly for you all. A long time ago when classicflytying.com was still alive and well, a member organized a project that several tyers participated in. We chose the album "The Wall" by Pink Floyd and each person was assigned a song, or segment of the album. The film accompanying the album was also an inspiration to many tyers including me. The visuals of the film definitely helped me choose some colors and other elements. Each person tied a fly they felt represented the song they were assigned. It was supposed to end up being a cool compilation of flies and the flies that were completed were very cool, however several people never finished them as far as I can remember. I got the section "stop" which is less of a song and more of a transition segment on the album. If you're not familiar with the album, it is a concept album so plays as more of a story than a collection of individual songs. This is what I came up with for that section. I think it fit my song very well, whether or not people think it's cool as a stand along, not practical fly??? That's up to you! Thought I would share something on the opposite end of the spectrum from classic patterns. Things used to get weird on CFT.com. Again, hope you guys enjoy and feel free to share your thoughts.
  12. Hi All, I am always short of time this time of year, so I have nothing fresh to share. That should change come winter. So, I'm taking a page out of SalarMan's book and figured I'd share an oldie. This pattern is a modern pattern designed by Paul Ptalis. My version here is a slight variation on his. I tied this probably 5 or more years ago. College and my first few years of grown-up (I'll never truly grow up) life threw a wrench into my tying, but I've been getting back at it these days. I figure if I'm going to flap my gums in this new forum, I better back it up. I hope you all enjoy, and I'm open to any questions, critiques, etc.
  13. flykid

    iPhone case

    A great idea! I like the lanyard idea, keeping from dropping the phone is a great way to stop it from getting wet in the first place! I personally use a Kyocera phone that is waterproof, dustproof shockproof etc. Of course the waterproof-ness is only to a certain depth for a certain amount of time, but I have tested it by dropping it in my hot tub. I let it dry out and it was good after that. The biggest downside to the Kyocera is it is nowhere near as powerful as the iPhones, has a worse camera etc. I'm just accident prone and don't trust myself with that technology.
  14. Poking around on the internet, it looks like some places sell dyed hen neck which would probably be best for your classic wet fly throats due to their length and webbing. However, if you can't find them from your source, you could probably find some webby feathers in a pack of strung saddle hackle, which would also probably be your cheapest option. There are usually a variety of sizes in a package and several are generally shorter and webby. For classic salmon flies, you can also use saddle hackle. Hen neck would be too short for body hackles and throat hackles on larger salmon fly patterns. You can also use schlappen, rooster, etc. When it comes to classic salmon flies different people seem to have their own preference when it comes to the hackle type they like. The hackle you choose will also depend on if that hackle is being used as a throat, collar, or body hackle.
  15. Welcome! Good advice from the guys above. There's certainly a wide world of fly tying out there, especially once you start diving in to the traditional or "classic" patterns. Chug's link to the thread above will have some good information. I would suggest though, that you start new threads with your attempts at new flies as it will be easier for people to see and give any requested advice or critiques. I started tying classic flies with the same question to the folks here as you, probably 15 year ago. There was a wealth of information. Many of the knowledgeable people have been lost in the shuffle, but there are still a few of us around that can help out. As far as what you need, that will just depend on what you want to tie. Winged wets are a great place to start. They use pretty common, affordable materials and will help you build some skills that will carry over to classic salmon flies. If you don't already have it, Ray Bergman's book would be a great resource for patterns. I'm not sure if there is any how-to in that book, I haven't really read through my copy yet. I confess, I am not very well versed in winged wets, so I can't give too much advice on specifically tying them, but can assist with the basic skills needed. As far as materials for winged wet flies go, The wings/tails are generally made of duck wing quills dyed various colors, as well as wood duck both barred and not, mallard, peacock sword, golden pheasant tippet etc. Most of those materials are pretty easily found and affordable. Bodies will usually be made of silk floss of various colors with a rib made of metal tinsel. Again, both of those are pretty easily found and can be pretty affordable. You'll use peacock herl for butts which you most likely already have. I think hen neck is generally the preferred material for throats, but you can really use any good, webby, soft hackle in the color called for. A proper wet fly hook will help you get the right proportions and aesthetic as well as functionality if you want to fish the flies. Mustad has a signature wet fly/nymph hook that should be reasonably priced and fit the bill. You won't find all of it here, but I recommend feathersmc.com for a lot of it. Materials for the classic salmon flies can be very expensive, but don't have to be. If you want to use antique or handmade hooks and 100% authentic materials, be prepared for a wild goose chase and a large price tag. But there are great substitute materials available now for the pricey stuff and there are also a lot of classic patterns that don't require exotic materials and are still very beautiful. Finally, the Ronn Lucas tutorials linked above are a great place to start when you want to start getting in to the classic salmon flies. Post all of your efforts here and I'm sure you'll get some great feedback and assistance. Try not to be too intimidated, take your time like Mike said, learn as you go, and enjoy the process.
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