vicrider

I am seriously looking at cars and one on my short list is the Kia Soul. A couple of cars I'm looking at and I think the Soul is one have a roof or "top" airbag. Couldn't figure out why they need a roof air bag but now I see the engineers are planning for everything. Wheel spacers on raised trucks should be outlawed. A tire breaking off is not something new to them. The thing that really gets me is the tire coming alive and taking another shot at the poor car when it finally comes to a stop. Possessed tire? Brings back memories of "Christine".

Some excellent topwaters to hang some of those nymphs from arrived from Trouttramp today.

This...Use the guards and either a lighter or the cauterizing tool. Cauterizing tool makes me nervous when I think back to when wife decided our family was big enough.

What is the collars of your fly cph? Almost looks like carefully cut furry foam.

Some very nice flies from cencal and stellahound are here and if anyone else is tying a Pat's rubber legs beside the hound and I go ahead. It is still one of the simplest (not that easy) for supplies and cost of any of the popular stone nymphs and catches many varieties of fishes including everything from crappies to carp and would probably work on the FL exotics I'd love to go fish for sometime. Nick Oh yeah, about those exotics in FL after a recent article I read that warned about landing fish quickly with minimum next to shore splashing because crocs have gotten used to that sound meaning they have an easy meal waiting for them if they're quick enough means I'd want to check on circumstances where I'd fish before giving it a go. Being on a walker makes me the easiest target for crocs or grizzlies in a run away situation. Also why I don't fish grizzley country. Nobody has to shoot me in the knee to run faster than I can. PS...One of cencal's sofa pillows on top supporting a nymph from the hound or flytire would be soup of the day on many trout streams.

I don't know James. Maybe we've just had too many swaps close together and people are prepping for the season coming up and filling spots in the box rather than a mixture from a swap. I've looked for that one tire to finish out my Stonefly swap but have extras from flytire so we'll have full returns even if we don't get that last spot filled. I even debated about throwing another swap out there myself since I have a package to send out tomorrow, Stoneflies to do, H&L Variant to finish up on, and foolishly signed up for a Facebook swap. The last two weeks for me have been a disaster between a tornado on edges of town killing one, 5 other assorted deaths in our small town for various reasons, relatives in town from MN, AZ, and NC meaning two weeks I never even looked at my fishing room (it became a spare bedroom).Time for me to catch up with my swaps and then backoff and plan some fishing myself.

+1 on Steve's post. I personally hate Facebook and love the bulletin board forums like this one. Seems like a FB page would soon be in competition with this well run forum..

I'm in and probably do a H&L Variant. If it was good enough for Dwight Eisenhower, the last real president, it should be good enough for us, though I'm sure the ones tied for him by R.C. Coffman that paid for his House and Lot (thence the name) were nicer than anything I'll tie but I'll give it my all. Nick edit...After doing some checking it should really be "hence the name" and not thence.

Okay, since cencal is going to handle the dry flies then one of you should also get in and finish out this swap for a full deck. We can run it with 11 and there is a nice bunch of bonus flies from one of our most skilled tyers on the board to distribute and this is a swap you will really be sorry if you miss if you fish trout anywhere in the country. Like Fishin'Bob said, first it's caddis flies, then stones and we already have a great set of pillows from cencalfly to hold up a drifting nymph looking for cover and at it's more vulnerable. Nick

What our Danish friend, is a bristle? Does it eat dry flies. Is it edible? Don't know the name over here.

Sounds good TT and Darrell, been waiting for you. TT, like the idea of a top water version. Most of us will do nymphs most likely. I know I will but may try to do one of each if times allows with all the visiting and goings on around here for awhile. One spot open. Jump in if you want to play with the big boys.

C/mon guys, everyone needs some stones to throw in the water and we already have a promise of extras for the swap. Let's fill this out and there are some fairly easy ties for newcomers to join in.

Sorry about that ceccal. When something like happens I just hope the person trips on a rock, breaks his rod fishing your flies, and someone breaks into his truck while he's fishing. Otherwise, if they weren't stole but ripped in process of shipping and someone found them I hope he enjoys them and has success with them.

So psycho, what was wrong with your morning? Sometimes I resent even having to get up in the morning, was wondering what you resented about your morning?

Not only did Flytire take pity on me and fill us out but we're lucky to have one of the top tiers in the country on our side and site. What? You say they're stones and you heard fishes like to eat flying stones? Okay, so how about a swap of any stage in the cycle or size of stones to throw in the water? There are golden stones, black stones, and four main stages. Nymph, crawling to land, return to water to lay eggs, and spent. For me it's mainly reading about it but I understand Stoneflies are one of the biggest anticipated hatches on many rivers in various parts of the country. How about a swap to stock our fly boxes with some quality stones for the upcoming season? Normal house rules apply and we'll hope for a dozen tyres to give us a selection of stones in various stages for the box. The one thing this old dog has in learning new tricks is return flies. If you want to SASE fine. If you want to just send flies in an envelope with $5.00 I'll print the label and stick it right back on the original envelope. Whatever works for you is good with me. Let's start this and see if we have a dozen interested people after all the recent swaps we've been enjoying. Let's look to have these in by April 15th giving 6 weeks to get them done. Nick Szabo, PO Box 361, Cheyenne, OK, 73628 1. CPHubert 2. Fishin' Bob 3. Woodenlegs 4. nivecker 5 . cencalfly...In house 6. John 1986 7. WWKimba 8. Stellahound...In house 9. Stabgnid 10. Trouttramp...In house 11. DarrellP 12. Flytire...In house

When the rolling machine sends regular envelopes thru that are not smoothly distributed and under their thickness guide it can mess them up. That's why if you want to be in a swap with bulky flies you should foot the cost of a bubble of manila envelope. The few times I've sent someone a few flies in an envelope I put craft paper on each side inside envelope so it will go through roller smoothly.

Bob, I am south of the Mason/Dixon line but have locals say we're not. I traced it from start to finish and it goes through Enid OK which is about 50 miles north of us. Squeezy, how big are those hooks and flies if they'll hang on the edge of a spitoon like that? Got one on our porch for Grandma to shoot her chew into.

Okay Bob, with all the talk about various way to handle the swaps do you want the good old SASE, two envelopes and $5, or one envelope with flies and $5? I really think now I'm going to go with the single envelope and $5 and do the labels myself and cover anything on the front.

Something that came to me when I was sending back the flies from the last swap. It is only a minor matter but we could save the cost of a return envelope if we used the $5 and flies in an envelope system. At least for me I could print the label to send them back in same package and cover anything on the original envelope with the label. I always use to sizes of envelopes when I send in a swap but ONLY IF the swapmeister would agree on HIS swap the return envelope would not be needed. This is the way I think I will go in the future. Nick

cencal, is the red tip just an attractor feature or is supposed to represent an egg layer, or doesn't it matter to the fish?

So Darrell, apologizes should be on my end. Maybe when you get old and set in your ways it's harder to change tradition even if times are changing. Seems like more postal workers are looking for reasons to give us a hard time when it is us that are paying their wages. So the thread you posted is open and pinned at top for now and people can make their own decisons on this. Believe it or not I've gone full circle on this since this last swap had a few problems with short stamps after weighing them. Nick

Okay, we're unlocked. A strange thing happened when my wife took the swap packages to the PO today to drop in mail. I had told her they were just dropoffs and ready to go. She was not all that happy when she came home. There were a couple of packages that sent me money or stamps in package and a couple people had used their own prepaid labels on. Of the ones that were stamped 3 were weighed and had to get added postage. The ones I had done labels on (and refunded extra paid in envelope to tyer) and the other prepaid went right thru just getting tracking #. My wife asked me, "Why don't you just have them send the money and you do labels and make it easier to send and at PO"? HUH.... SO I'M REVERSING MY POSITION. EVEN OLD DOGS CAN LEARN NEW TRICKS AND TRADITION IS NOT ALWAYS THE BEST If the Swapmeister is alright with it on his end I'll go along with sending $5 on most swap in envelope. For me I will use Pirateship.com to continue to send packages and print the labels. It is a little more trouble yes, but not that much and saves time and headaches at PO. I guess we should leave this to Swapmeister to choose if this is fine for him but hereafter it is the way I would prefer to do it. SASE has worked for years and will continue to but for some reason it has suddenly become a problem at some POs and the prepaid labels have not proven to be a problem. Okay, discussion is back open...

Here's the flies. Tried to get them toe tags but gave up. Yours should still have them when they come in.

I posted this on the fly swap board but I'll just copy it here... Okay, flies are all sorted and sealed but didn't get to PO today. I've joked before on one of the really great swaps, which this one is, someone stole all the flies so I'm not sending any out. Well, last night in Cheyenne I almost becamse a case of the flies flying away. While wife and I were in tornado shelter in backyard there was a touchdown taking out a house, several roofs, and killing one south of town and another one taking most of the roof and a couple of sheds in the AG Building, which is one block west of us and two blocks north. That's close. This is only the second time in the 11 years I've been here we've hit the shelter and the first time we had actual touchdowns in town. I've always said the storms come from south TX and go east of us and this is the usual rule. This time they came out of the TX panhandle and swept right through us. The storms that came through last night carried winds measured in some area over 100mph. These can do major damage without a tornado. Our winds probably hit the 50mph area but that's something we used to. The storms themselves were traveling at speeds several weather talking mouths said they had never seen before. If you drove the freeway from Cheyenne to OK City on I 40 at 70 mph the storm would have caught you. The band was not real wide and fortunately it moved laterally and did not form a track path over any area or it would have ripped some town completely apart. It did give us an early warning for the coming severe weather season we need to pack our bugout bag, stock some water and batteries in the shelter, and do some work for me to get in shelter safely now with the bad leg. I need to do railing on steps, hand grabs on top to get onto steps, and some more chairs in shelter. Oh yeah, flies will out tomorrow for sure and there was enough extras to get a box going for the military verson of Casting for Recovery.

Okay, flies are all sorted and sealed but didn't get to PO today. I've joked before on one of the really great swaps, which this one is, someone stole all the flies so I'm not sending any out. Well, last night in Cheyenne I almost becamse a case of the flies flying away. While wife and I were in tornado shelter in backyard there was a touchdown taking out a house, several roofs, and killing one south of town and another one taking most of the roof and a couple of sheds in the AG Building, which is one block west of us and two blocks north. That's close. This is only the second time in the 11 years I've been here we've hit the shelter and the first time we had actual touchdowns in town. I've always said the storms come from south TX and go east of us and this is the usual rule. This time they came out of the TX panhandle and swept right through us. The storms that came through last night carried winds measured in some area over 100mph. These can do major damage without a tornado. Our winds probably hit the 50mph area but that's something we used to. The storms themselves were traveling at speeds several weather talking mouths said they had never seen before. If you drove the freeway from Cheyenne to OK City on I 40 at 70 mph the storm would have caught you. The band was not real wide and fortunately it moved laterally and did not form a track path over any area or it would have ripped some town completely apart. It did give us an early warning for the coming severe weather season we need to pack our bugout bag, stock some water and batteries in the shelter, and do some work for me to get in shelter safely now with the bad leg. I need to do railing on steps, hand grabs on top to get onto steps, and some more chairs in shelter. Oh yeah, flies will out tomorrow for sure and there was enough extras to get a box going for the military verson of Casting for Recovery.